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Life for Captain Hannah Winterbourne, a transgender soldier in the British army
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/life-for-captain-hannah-winterbourne-a-transgender-soldier-in-the-british-army/story-fnh81p7g-1227189585640 ^ | January 19, 2015

Posted on 01/19/2015 7:41:15 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

A SOLDIER serving in the British Army has become the first and only transgender officer.

Saying she was “living an act” Captain Hannah Winterbourne, 27, decided to become a woman while on tour in Afghanistan reported The Mirror.

Winterbourne, an officer in the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, began her transition in 2013 and is now the highest ranking trans soldier in the British Army.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: army; homosexualagenda; transgender; winterbourne
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To: ConservativeStatement
Saying she was “living an act”

All of this sex "assignment"/"identification" stuff is just a mental illness.

21 posted on 01/19/2015 8:52:58 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I assume the government (=taxpayers) paid for the “transition??”

(and will continue to pay and pay and pay and pay..)


22 posted on 01/19/2015 8:54:19 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Consider this Diem Carped.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The mentally ill are a danger to everyone in the group. This will not end well for anyone involved. It’s amazing how the mentally ill get a pass by libs if it’s sexual.


23 posted on 01/19/2015 10:09:51 AM PST by Trillian
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To: TexasCajun

That’s good!


24 posted on 01/19/2015 10:22:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: DiogenesLamp; NFHale
the result of the fact that so many normal and manly men were killed in WWI and WWII and what was left over was an over-representation of cowardly poofs.

While something of that sort is still often said, it doesn't stand up to a moment's serious scrutiny, whether genetic, demographic,statistical or historical. Terrible as the losses were, especially in the First War, the numbers were never great enough to have a serous impact on the gene pool. They were overwhelmingly from a very narrow age band, whose genes survived in siblings too young or too old to fight, or in children conceived before their deaths. The majority were conscripts, and conscription does not select for character: nor does the industrial nature of the killing in the two wars where, with the obvious exception of numerically small categories like fighter pilots,commandos and special forces, you had as much chance of death or survival whether you were hero or coward.

Paradoxically the very different nature of recent conflicts has given more scope for traditional personal bravery than was usually the case in the two world wars: and British forces have shown no lack of that in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

25 posted on 01/19/2015 12:39:22 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy; DiogenesLamp

I appreciate your response.

And I’m not trying to be a wise-guy here; but how do you explain the lack of response while Rigby was murdered in broad daylight? Why didn’t the people standing there witnessing it jump on those two sand fleas and immediately pound them into the street??

Shock and horror at the onset, yes... but they were walking around ranting for minutes covered in blood afterwards.

Here in this country, they would have been either shot by an armed Citizen, or set upon with whatever was at hand by folks.

And do not misunderstand me - I would never disparage the bravery of British soldiers. My father was US Army Airborne in WWII and he had nothing but praise for his British 6th Airbborne allies that jumped into Germany with him. Nor would I ever disparage their current sacrifices and bravery against these psychotic 7th century lunatics.


26 posted on 01/19/2015 12:57:21 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Winniesboy
While something of that sort is still often said, it doesn't stand up to a moment's serious scrutiny, whether genetic, demographic,statistical or historical.

I see other examples that challenge the theory as well. That theory was offered as a response to my question as to what was wrong with England nowadays. I hear of so many prominent English men who turn out to be Homosexuals I jokingly suggested it was some sort of evil German Secret weapon that had been unleashed upon them.

It still remains to be explained as to why there appears to be such a high occurrence of Homosexuality amongst England's prominent men. It was the discovery that Arthur C Clarke was homosexual that prompted the question from me in the first place. As he was born in 1917 he could hardly be a consequence of attrition of manly men in the first world war.

Something else must be going on. Care to suggest a theory?

27 posted on 01/19/2015 1:04:53 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservativeStatement

Damn the torpedo....


28 posted on 01/19/2015 1:37:29 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I will be sent to reeducation camp.

Could be a lengthy stay!

29 posted on 01/19/2015 1:39:01 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: ConservativeStatement
Transition?

Lock him in a windowless room with a Ka-Bar and a bottle of whisky ... let him make his choice.

30 posted on 01/19/2015 1:42:06 PM PST by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It still remains to be explained as to why there appears to be such a high occurrence of Homosexuality amongst England's prominent men.

But is the proportion actually, rather than just apparently, any higher than anywhere else? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't - I've no idea, and I'm not aware of any sound evidence one way or the other. I'd be very wary, however, of drawing such a conclusion simply because of the volume of media and other public discussion of the issue.

31 posted on 01/20/2015 3:09:09 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: NFHale

Not this again.

Rigby was murdered in seconds by the two on a normal high street, where most people were shopping and were carrying nothing but shopping bags. The two men were armed with knives, a gun and a machete. A minority of UK’ers own guns (I am one) but we don’t carry. MEN who DID try to get to Rigby were attacked by the two, that’s why they’d only famously allow women anywhere near the body. Why women were the ones that tried to intervene and calm them down.

Sorry, but the macho BS from the US gets very tiring. Yeah, y’all have done killed them Mooslims with your 45’s, we get it. We’re pus*ies, we get it. Americans seem to have forgotten what unarmed Scots did to two terrorists at Glasgow Airport......maybe its just Londoners. IMO Scots, Welsh, Ulster people as well as northern English would have tried to stop them or done so.

Why didn’t your people save Kitty Genovese?. And the other American murder victims who died whilst Americans stood around or watched or heard and did nothing?.

A high horse is very dangerous to dismount.


32 posted on 01/20/2015 4:37:51 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: DiogenesLamp

Its a stereotype!.

Most English are working class and heteros. Its a gross stereotype, just like all Yanks are fat, all Scots are drunks, all Irish the same, all Welsh can sing.


33 posted on 01/20/2015 4:39:36 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Winniesboy
But is the proportion actually, rather than just apparently, any higher than anywhere else? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't - I've no idea, and I'm not aware of any sound evidence one way or the other. I'd be very wary, however, of drawing such a conclusion simply because of the volume of media and other public discussion of the issue.

I am unaware of any actual scientific study on the issue, I am all too aware of the constant revelations regarding the sexual proclivities of so many famous English men.

You can hardly swing a dead cat amongst England's famous men without hitting a homosexual or a "bi".

Did you know Ian McKellen (Dumbledore , Gandalf, and Magneto) is queer?

34 posted on 01/20/2015 6:25:08 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: the scotsman

Wasn’t insulting you.

It was a legitmate question.

Lighten up.


35 posted on 01/20/2015 6:45:07 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: the scotsman
Its a stereotype!.

Most English are working class and heteros. Its a gross stereotype, just like all Yanks are fat, all Scots are drunks, all Irish the same, all Welsh can sing.

How did it get to be a stereotype? Stereotypes often become stereotypes because so many of the people being stereotyped leave the impression that becomes the stereotype.

Seriously, when you go down the laundry list of famous Englishmen, you keep getting the "Well that's one is queer, and so is that one, and that one too" to the point where you have to wonder what the h3ll is going on.

David Bowie? Rod Stewart? Alec Guinness? George Michael? Stephen Fry? Elton John? Arthur C. Clarke? Ian McKellen? Graham Chapman? Alan Turing? Laurence Olivier? Oscar Wilde? Freddy Mercury? John Maynard Keynes? W. Somerset Maugham? Boy George? Rupert Everett? Graham Norton? Russell T Davies?

And a whole host of other people, but those names come to mind. For being ~2% of a population, they certainly seem to be overrepresented amongst Famous Englishmen. Perhaps this is an illusion, but it certainly appears odd. I don't think I could name as many famous Americans who are queer, and the population pool here is much larger. (about six times)

Maybe it's a stereotype, but how did it become one?

36 posted on 01/20/2015 7:16:54 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

Rod Stewart’s gay?.

Only because he has slept with every last woman on the planet!.


37 posted on 01/20/2015 1:15:35 PM PST by the scotsman
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To: DiogenesLamp

Graham Norton’s Irish, Stewart is Anglo-Scots.

Bowie is hetero, a lot of his gay/bisexuality is myth, dreamed up during his Ziggy days. Stewart is certainly NOT gay. And Alec Guinness was a married heterosexual. You are thinking of Gielgud. Olivier’s bisexuality is conjecture.

The others, well most of them are actors and entertainers and therein lies your answer. I could name another 1000 British actors and entertainers who were/are heterosexual.


38 posted on 01/20/2015 1:20:11 PM PST by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Just ran across this thread. Kitty Genovese was murdered in the middle of the night on a dark, empty street. No one about to rush to her aid. Of course, it is now known that many, many people called the police to alert them that a terrible crime was being committed. Her death was not ignored - that was a media myth perpetrated against NYC. It’s now debunked.


39 posted on 01/23/2015 8:15:35 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

I know the story, I also know most of its is myth, I mention it as a retort to the ‘we have killed the Rigby killers stone dead’ posters.

Whilst some of the Genovese story is myth, I am not convinced by the modern revisionism, such as the whitewash A Crime To Remember episode a while ago.

The bottom line is whilst ‘38 people did nothing’ may be a myth, there was still imo far too much inaction, outright cowardice and failure to act that night by people. And lets not forget that 10 years later a young woman would be battered to death in Manhattan and people heard her screams, pleas for help and also did nothing.


40 posted on 01/23/2015 8:48:47 AM PST by the scotsman
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