Posted on 01/16/2015 7:39:02 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Pope Francis has weighed into the debate over freedom of expression in the wake of the religious attacks in Paris, saying that anyone who insults a religion can expect a "punch in the nose".
...
He said "If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother [Mary?], he can expect a punch in the nose."
Throwing a pretend punch, the Pope said: "It's normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others."
...
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
It’s “news” because the way freedom of speech is (at least as we define it with our Constiution and the U.S. Supreme Court decisions backing it up) ... it’s our DUTY to insult and demean and make fun of the false prophet of the false god, Allah.
We MUST do that ... and so, to have someone like the Pope say “no” ... that’s definitely news!
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob actually makes fun of and laughs at the false gods and people who follow false religions and who don’t follow HIS WAY!
So you would go to a Charlie Hebdo-like march where they are mocking the Pope, Jewish rabbis, Jesus, Mary, and have pics of the Dung Mary painting and pics of the Piss Christ - along with Charlie Hebdo pics mocking Islam?
Maybe Malachy's prophecy is worth another look.
BTW, regarding this: So in everything, do unto others as you would have them do unto you?
What I would have them do unto me is steer me to Christianity and show me the errors in my current faith if I were not already a Christian.
I think that the Pope is either dishonest or clueless. Unless he condemns the people who pee in a jar, put a crucifix in it, and call it art, he is being disingenuous! He never did that to my knowledge. It seems that only the fear of people taking out the trash (killing gooners) has gotten a rise out of him. Only when he condemns how those savages rape children and all their barbarity will I change my mind.
Reminds me what P.J. O'Rourke once said:
"A conservative may tell you that you shouldn't make fun of something. And he may be right. But a liberal will tell you, 'You can't make fun of cripples.' And he's wrong - as anybody who's heard the one about Helen Keller falling into a well and breaking three fingers calling for help can tell you."
But does the 1 Kings example line up with “So in EVERYTHING, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
Jesus Christ, Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31?
“All the guy was trying to say is that while it might be legal to make fun of another religion, it is not polite. And we should be polite.”
Tell yourself that when you try not to laugh at the “Pastafarians”.
The bottom line is that mocking God is meaningless. If as an ordinary person, if you pass by an anthill, and one of the ants is mocking you, even if you know that ant is mocking you, do you destroy the ant, or the entire anthill?
Then what if you see the ants tearing apart that one ant that was mocking you. What does that inspire you to do?
Otherwise, it has been said that the truly fanatical are that way, because among believers, they doubt their faith the most. So their response is to oppress others, on the grounds that *the others* faith is not strong enough.
If you mock the faith of a true believer, they will laugh at and ignore your mockery. Only the fanatic gets upset about it, because their faith is weak enough as is.
There is one proviso to this, however, which is that if the mockery is patently offensive beyond faith, it can be reasonably condemned, not out of fanaticism, but on the grounds of good taste.
I raised that you should never make fun of anyone’s race, ethnicity, or religion.
However, radical Islam is more of a dangerous ideology than it is a religion.
But if you were not a Christian, why would you (in the first place) think that there were errors in your faith?
First I would have to acknowledge Islam as a religion and not a cult, secondly I am only polite to those that deserve it.
Correct, people should be polite.
But do you actually think that we should follow the Pope’s example seriously and punch people in the nose if they insult our religious sensibilities?
I would think that you would agree that being the Pope is a serious job and that hundreds of millions of people take his words seriously.
So, perhaps you are right, we shouldn’t take his words too seriously. If that’s the case, we really shouldn’t take this buffoon too seriously either.
If you do take the Pope seriously, when should we care about what he says and when should we not?
Personally, I think that the Pope should be careful in his words when speaking to the public whether on small matters or large ones.
Luke 16:10
He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
If I were at a march where every religion and faith under the sun was being mocked, it wouldn’t bother me one bit to march in that Hebdo-like march.
It would not affect my faith in Jesus Christ, as their mockery would not have any bearing on what I believe, would not affect it one whit, and would not affect the faith that I have in the One in whom I believe in.
That is your rule, and I reject it.
/johnny
The only time Jesus got angry was with the money changers in the temple. I wonder how much money the Vatican has in the bank, property and art.
But the people who craft the cartoons at Charlie Hebdo have mocked the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob in the past along with mocking Islam and Mohammed.
Violence and lethal responses are NEVER acceptable.
But how long would it take before people started throwing punches at a Charlie-Hebdo like march where Jesus, Mohammed, Jewish rabbis, the Pope, Mary, the Buddha, etc, were being mocked?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.