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Natan Sharansky Exclusive: ‘European idea will die here and survive in Israel’
THE JEWISH CHRONICLE ONLINE ^ | July 24, 2014 | Natan Sharansky

Posted on 01/09/2015 11:56:58 AM PST by Nachum

I believe we are seeing the beginning of the end of Jewish history in Europe. What makes the situation in Europe unique in history is the fact that Europe has become very intolerant of identities in a multicultural and post-nationalist environment.

This new antisemitism is very connected to Israel — demonisation, delegitimisation and double-standards — and is now so deep in the core of European political and intellectual leaders that practically every Jew is being asked to choose between being loyal to Israel and loyal to Europe.

That insecurity is due to Muslim immigration and the rise of the classical right, which sees the Jews as the “other”.

The liberal, intellectual Europe where Jews historically felt so comfortable is now asking them to choose between Israel and “us”.

These three factors are bringing us to the situation where unprecedented numbers of Jews in the free world are moving to Israel. This year, one per cent of the French Jewish community will make aliyah.

I see this as a historical moment — as the beginning of the process of distancing Jews from Europe.

Europe is abandoning its identities, with the multicultural idea that there will be no such things as nation-states or religion. In post-identity Europe, there is less and less space for Jews for whom it is important to have both identity and freedom. In Europe, it is becoming more difficult to have both.

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To: flaglady47

As an American, I would welcome European Jews...they’d be a super addition of talent to our country.
But again, this place isn’t safe anymore...or at least...this place does not have a safe future anymore...

and whether it will or not depends so greatly on events not yet assured...not by a long shot...
such as your mention of our possibly getting another “Muzzie lover” in the WH. Remember that the “Muzzies’ were flooding in here under Clinton and Bush, too... and please note that there are several prominent candidates for President who appear to have some strong Arabian or Islamic financial backing...and/or associations/proclivities/sympathies.

No, USA is not a safe haven looking forward. European Jews will be far better off in Israel where they’re prepared to defend themselves. But at any event, they...and events...will decide... and no doubt some will come here.


23 posted on 01/09/2015 1:57:44 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks for the ping very interesting times we are living in.


24 posted on 01/09/2015 2:08:52 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Daniel 2 Daniel 7 Daniel 9 Revelation 13)
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To: Obadiah; Nachum; F15Eagle
>>Anybody know if Biblical prophesy speaks to Jews migrating home to Israel/Jerusalem?<<

Israel became a nation once again exactly as God promised (Joel 3:1-2, Amos 9, Jeremiah 31, Ezekiel 36).

The Bible predicted that Israel would blossom in the last days and export produce to the world (Isaiah 27:6, Isaiah 35:1-2, Ezekiel 36:34-36).

Check out how much Israel exports now.

The Bible predicted that Jerusalem would be rebuilt in the last days on its old ruins, which is exactly what happened (Jeremiah 30:18, Zechariah 12:6).

Ynet News recently reported that 2014 was a record year for Aliyah (Ezekiel 36:22-28 and Isaiah 11:10-12).

25 posted on 01/09/2015 2:26:55 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Obadiah; F15Eagle

Referred to as “Aliyah”.

9/22/14

“Ahead of New Year, Aliyah Hits 5-Year High

24,800 new immigrants arrived in Israel in the Jewish year 5774 – more of them from France than any other country.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/185414#.VLBWYGfwvIX

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Ezekiel 11:16-17:

“Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.

Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.”...


27 posted on 01/09/2015 2:40:34 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Obadiah

So what will be the catalyst sending US Jews home to Israel?....you know there’s gonna be one!


28 posted on 01/09/2015 3:04:34 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("trapped by hyenas, Bill had as much life expectancy as a glass table at a UVA Frat house party!/s)
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To: Nachum
I totally agree. It was predictable and preventable.

Islam is not compatible with Western Civilization.

29 posted on 01/09/2015 3:11:25 PM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: faithhopecharity

No, USA is not a safe haven looking forward. European Jews will be far better off in Israel where they’re prepared to defend themselves.

Why is it I get this feeling you don’t really want the European Jews to come here. Just keeps nagging now at the back of my mind. You keep saying they shouldn’t come, throwing up strawmen as excuses. Hmmmmm.


30 posted on 01/09/2015 3:14:10 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: elcid1970

“Thank God for America!”

I second that motion.


31 posted on 01/09/2015 3:15:23 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: flaglady47

They’d be a big plus for us here.
That’s not the point.
There is no “strawman” about my comment.
Jews are in many places in USA already having to deploy defense patrols or hire professional security services to protect their houses of worship, community buildings, libraries, schools, and yes sometimes even themselves personally.
FYI.
You are apparently not fully informed as to the current deteriorating conditions in USA. (The Jews who are under these pressures, and the police departments advising them, are keeping the problems fairly quiet so this is quite understandable. Some Christian churches and facility buildings are similarly having to beef up security against attacks from the same threatening source... There are federal and now some state security assessement and.or funding programs actively working on this as we type...
But please don’t try to ascribe any complex motivations to anything I type to you....I am typing just what I mean to say ...thanks!)
Other than that,


32 posted on 01/09/2015 3:22:19 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Get ready Americans to “lock and load.”


33 posted on 01/09/2015 3:29:20 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: faithhopecharity

Now I understand why Americans have bought guns and ammo in large numbers the last couple of years.


34 posted on 01/09/2015 3:31:24 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: flaglady47

Good news, Americans are ARMED to the teeth.


35 posted on 01/09/2015 3:32:20 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: faithhopecharity

“You are apparently not fully informed as to the current deteriorating conditions in USA.”

LOL, that’s funny. Well, then the Christians better leave our country too. It’s not safe. And the European Jews, well they better just stay out of here, it’s so dangerous for them.

There are an awful lot of Jews here already, you know. I think we need all of the European Jews to join them over here. There’s safety in numbers, and what with the Jews we aready have here, it will make for lots more of them than Muzzies. What a wonderful idea. Out populate the Muzzies in our country with lots of European Jews. Come on in!


36 posted on 01/09/2015 3:47:17 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: Biggirl

difficult to know when rational defensive steps ... may become an over-reaction... but many churches and synagogues have received threats and some have had IslamoNazi or just criminal or nutzoid attacks on their buildings and/or parishoners

so... many churches and synagogues have taken, or are taking, or are considering new...defensive measures of various kinds.

electronics alarm systems, volunteer lookouts and patrols, firearms training, member or staff or hired professional security services...you name it. Lots of approaches underway in different places...

could good intelligent immigrants still do well in USA, certainly (albeit our economy is in very sad shape these last five years).
could they find relatively safe communities in USA? Certainly!

But we are being rapidly ‘transformed’...and are no longer the ‘golden city on the hill’ ... we are being tarnished badly and pulled down the Abyss. Back ‘in the day’ this church/synagogue safety or security problem just wasn’t on the radar


37 posted on 01/09/2015 3:49:53 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: flaglady47

I’d welcome them all here!
It would help USA a lot to have them here.
Whether we can offer them quite as safe or pleasant an experience as we could in former times, though, is another matter.
I will not attempt to argue about it. It is just something that rabbis and pastors and priests are having to deal with, with their congregations....in today’s Transformed America, is all.

Over and Out.
Best regards and thanks for your thoughts.
fhc.


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38 posted on 01/09/2015 3:55:58 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: faithhopecharity

...Until at least the end of 2016 this nation is being tarnished. 2016 cannot come soon enough!


39 posted on 01/09/2015 3:58:41 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: faithhopecharity

I do not question the issue of security, but do not deny the fact that Americans have bought guns and ammo the last couple of years either.


40 posted on 01/09/2015 4:00:11 PM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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