Posted on 01/07/2015 11:59:32 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski
The Presbyterian Church USA is considering banning the word “Israel” from its prayers. That anti-Semitic resolution was meant to “distinguish between the biblical terms that refer to the ancient land of Israel and the modern political State of Israel".
It has happened before. In his war against the Jews, Adolf Hitler instructed Christian theologians to rewrite the Bible, in a bid to remove all mention of the Jews. Their barbaric spirit is living on in the Palestinolatry of these liberal Christians...
(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
Most Christians today subscribe to theology that believes “Israel” refers to the body of believers in Christ, and not to the modern state of Israel.
It’s rather repugnant and dishonest to jump into comparisons with Hitler and smearing them all with claims to anti semitism.
Yes, you can still support modern Israel and Jews even if you believe “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
Supersessionism is not a recent teaching, nor is it necessarily heretical. In fact, supersessionism has been common throughout the history of Christianity and remains a common assumption among Christians, since the Holocaust it has been rejected by mainstream Christian theologians and denominations.
Forms of supersessionism were taught by Hippolytus, Origen, Justin Martyr, and Augustine.
Be surprised how many people have a problem with that, esp. anti-Jewish Christians; the Jews killed Christ group.
Genesis 12:3 “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”
Fools.
Dunno. But what they aren’t is adherents to His word...
Good post.
Israel is to the Church as the caterpillar is to the butterfly.
....The view that Israel and the church are different is clearly taught in the New Testament. Biblically speaking, the church is completely different and distinct from Israel, and the two are never to be confused or used interchangeably. We are taught from Scripture that the church is an entirely new creation that came into being on the day of Pentecost and will continue until it is taken to heaven at the rapture (Ephesians 1:9-11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17). The church has no relationship to the curses and blessings for Israel. The covenants, promises, and warnings are valid only for Israel. Israel has been temporarily set aside in God's program during these past 2000 years of dispersion.
Historically speaking, none of the basic protestant eschatologies - pre, mid or postmil - have ever been held to be heretical by the orthodox church. As one FReeper summarized the issue, eschatology is not the hill you want to die on. Christology and soteriology are.
No Reformed, amillennial or postmillennial Christian that I know of believes that they're replacing the Jews in God's eschatology. In fact, it's the modern dispensationalist who thinks that the Jews have been replaced by the church until the church disappears in the rapture!
According to English and every other dispensationalist, the Church has replaced Israel until the rapture. The unfulfilled promises made to Israel are not fulfilled until after the Church is taken off the earth. Thomas Ice, one of dispensationalism’s rising stars, admits that the Church replaces Israel this side of the rapture: “We dispensationalists believe that the church has superseded Israel during the current church age, but God has a future time in which He will restore national Israel ‘as the institution for the administration of divine blessings to the world.’”Related threads:
-- From the thread Answering the "Replacement Theology" Critics (Part 1)“...the very category of ‘replacement’ is foreign to Reformed theology because it assumes a dispensational, Israeleo-centric way of thinking. It assumes that the temporary, national people was, in fact, intended to be the permanent arrangement.”
-- From the thread Replacing “Replacement” Theology"The historical premillennialist's view interprets some prophecy in Scripture as having literal fulfillment while others demand a semi-symbolic fulfillment. As a case in point, the seal judgments (Revelation 6) are viewed as having fulfillment in the forces in history (rather than in future powers) by which God works out his redemptive and judicial purposes leading up to the end. Rather than the belief of an imminent return of Christ, it is held that a number of historical events (e.g., the rise of the Beast and the False Prophet) must take place before Christ's Second Coming. This Second Coming will be accompanied by the resurrection and rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:15-18); this will inaugurate the millennial reign of Christ. The Jewish nation, while being perfectly able to join the church in the belief of a true faith in Christ, has no distinct redemptive plan as they would in the dispensational perspective. The duration of the millennial kingdom (Revelation 20:1-6) is unsure: literal or metaphorical."
-- From the thread Four Views on the Millennium
The Left (and I don’t mean christian), decided to infiltrate main line christian churches about 10-15 years ago, with the idea to trash everything they held dear, by creating confusion. Looks like they at least partially succeeded.
I’m not saying that I agree with it, only that is has been part of church history for quite a while, and several early church fathers taught this doctrine.
Sure, I did not mean to imply that it was a new doctrine. This has been official Roman Catholic doctrine for centuries...
I was wondering what denominations these “anti-semitic Christians” belong to and what their generally held belief on the infallibility of scripture is.
I’m betting they are left-leaning, “bible is allegorical”, theistic evolutionist, “many ways to God” types.
In other words, Humanists calling themselves “Christians”.
You got it.
So what of the Jews? How is it that they are back in their ancestral land as the Hebrew prophets predicted?
There is no secret rapture before Christ's return to judge. Christ-hating state of Isreal will not be given a pass.
You think the Modern State of Israel hates Jesus worse than the rest of the world? Think again...
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