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It’s time to abolish the CIA
The Washington Times ^
| December 31, 2014
| Bruce Fein
Posted on 01/02/2015 6:43:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Let's compromise and get rid of the State Department instead.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:02:00 PM PST
by
semaj
(Nothing will change until lying becomes an extremely dangerous & expensive habit.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Fein was once a relatively stable/rational conservative but he drifted into the Libertarian camp of Rep. Ron Paul and never emerged from that “mental black hole”.
His perception of the real world has been badly warped so take what he says with a great deal of caution.
However, he is a good writing so read him very carefully because of the hidden nuances he uses.
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Like anything, it will rise or fall depending on the quality and character of its members. If it is broken, fix it.
If it is abolished, who would do its necessary tasks?
Everything in the hands of fallen mankind is subject to corruption. The key is to have checks, balances and corrections.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:03:40 PM PST
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Abolish:
1) EPA
2) Dept. of Education
3) Dept. of Housing and Urban Develpment
4) IRS
5) The new pseudo agency Obama created to monitor everyone's finances (Don't remember the name of it.)
6) Every program, agency, position, and all funding for ObamaCare.
That's a start. Leave the CIA alone.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:03:46 PM PST
by
StormEye
To: uncitizen
Its gotta be a distraction piece because there are ENDLESS things that need to be addressed right now in this country with much more urgency than this. IRS, Illegal Aliens, 0bamacare, EPA over-reach, War on Coal, 0bama sucking up to ISIS ...
To: Hawthorn
Id say its time to abolish the writings of Bruce Fein.Fein isn't all bad. He's an outspoken critic of NSA.
But yes, about the CIA, he's wrong.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I use their string holsters......:o)
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:09:40 PM PST
by
Squantos
( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Yeah, hand it all over to the Times.
Look, its a messy business, but in general its clean.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:11:03 PM PST
by
mylife
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“It is better to risk being the victim of injustice than to be complicit in it.”
WTF has this ever been a pillar of America?
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:12:59 PM PST
by
mylife
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It needs to be reformed, but not done away with. Clandestine HUMINT at the national level of intelligence will always be needed.
The National intelligence officers keep making the wrong ASSUMPTIONS when dealing with terrorism and political Islam. This is not exclusively the CIA's fault. Ultimately, CIA has to support national strategy. It doesn't help when a sitting president declares Islam to be peaceful (thus, cutting off any competing analysis), then a subsequent two-term president being at a minimum, sympathetic to Islam.
It's almost as if the game is rigged. We cannot win anymore. We Americans talk about jobs and gas prices; meanwhile we have enemies gathering to take us out for good.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:14:09 PM PST
by
Salvavida
(The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
To: StormEye
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:15:37 PM PST
by
onyx
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“have became.” Unlettered putz.
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"The director and his subordinates have became insufferably arrogant Platonic Guardians hiding behind secrecy in the belief that the rest of us are too stupid or naive to judge what risks to accept to preserve liberty and the rule of law." Damn..! Sounds more like the Department Of Justice..!
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:18:05 PM PST
by
unread
(Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
To: BeadCounter
“That said, yes, Im sure the CIA has acted out-of-line a few times but Communism did have to be contained.”
Yes, and it has safely arrived here intact.
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It certainly needs reform- it was penetrated by communist moles long ago- and needs to have more human assets instead of relying on tech. No nation-state will survive in modern times without such an organization, though.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:21:56 PM PST
by
GenXteacher
(You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
To: BeadCounter
That said, yes, Im sure the CIA has acted out-of-line a few times but Communism did have to be contained. At what cost?
Here we are, stuck in a near-fascist, socialistic state [albeit with trappings of a federal structure and Constitution] that would be shocked with the introduction of a truly free market, or the Constitution taken as supreme law [meaning what it says, not what the government says it says].
Are you telling me that Capitalism could not withstand Communism in the marketplace of ideas
?
It seems to me that if opposing thought has to be squashed in order to to let the idea flourish it is highly indicative of a flawed idea.
It's all relevant because to assert that the CIA is useful despite constitutional bindings is to assert that the constitution's bindings are irrelevant.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:27:44 PM PST
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: BeadCounter
There is only one “D” in “does.”
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:28:07 PM PST
by
MrEdd
(Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
To: eldoradude
And winning is what you have to do to not die.
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:29:08 PM PST
by
MrEdd
(Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
To: semaj
Let's compromise and get rid of the State Department instead. How about everything that's not commissioned directly or one-step indirectly by the Constitution — that'd leave us with:
- Post Office
- Patent Office
- Secret Service (investigating counterfeiting only; no protection services.)
- Army
- Navy
- Department of Transportation (stripped of regulation-authority; tasked with maintaining the interstates and providing services such as weighing and escorting over-size loads.)
- IRS (unless you want to argue/prove the 16th amendment to be invalid or otherwise disallow individual income tax)
- Dept of State (stripped to the diplomatic corps.)
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:37:23 PM PST
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The director and his subordinates have became insufferably arrogant Platonic Guardians hiding behind secrecy in the belief that the rest of us are too stupid or naive to judge what risks to accept to preserve liberty and the rule of law. About half of the American people seem to be clueless about ongoing real events that are in the public domain, I would not expect them to be able to judge what risks to accept to preserve liberty and the rule of law when it comes to hidden threats.
That is why we need a CIA, staffed with people who care about this country. -Tom
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posted on
01/02/2015 7:42:05 PM PST
by
Capt. Tom
(Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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