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To: Impy; Cicero; Arthur McGowan
I had to backtrack quite a few posts to find out what Cardinal Bernadine had to do with a thread about Mario Cuomo. I'd argue Cuomo was well to his left, but I don't think Cuomo ever claimed to be pro-life (he might have claimed to be "personally" against abortion, which all liberals do).

That said, Bernadine did steadfastly claim to be pro-life, while making the ludicrous argument that abortion was on the same level as whatever the trendy feel good liberal giveaway program of the week was. In that way, you could make a valid argument that Bernadine did even more damage to the issue than Cuomo did. Dick Durbin and many others have been inspired by the "seamless garment" theory and used to make arguments like "well, if Republicans are morally opposed to abortion, why do they oppose giving drivers licenses to illegals? Denying social justice to illegals is just as bad as not giving a baby up for adoption" blah blah blah

The worst of the lot, IMO, is a rather obscure political/religious figure: "Father" Robert Drinan was some marxist Catholic "priest" from Massachuttes who got elected to Congress as a DemonRat. Rather than be a Lipinski-type "socially conservative" Dem, he complied a solid pro-abortion record and was in open defiance of the Catholic Church's sanctity of life beliefs, which is scandalous for a priest. Drinan had the gall to actually make the argument that he "felt" abortion was infanticide but HAD TO vote for abortion on demand because the constitution enshrined it as a GUARANTEED right as shown in Roe v. Wade. In an ideal world, Drinan would have been excommuicated. Eventually, Pope John Paul II got him out of politics, but only by issuing a ruling that active-duty priests in North America are not to hold partisan government offices.

Anyway, back on topic. The funny thing about Berandine is that he died in 1996, so I should remember him well. But I have only the vaguest memory of his tenure as Archbishop of Chicago.

An old friend of my pastor from his seminary days, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (appointed to San Francisco!), would make an ideal Cardinal, IMO. We certainly need more conservative Cardinals. But I'm not optimistic. Bishop Paprocki of Springfield would have made the ideal successor to Cardinal George. Instead, we got some squishy liberal from out west that had never been to Chicago.

Its no surprise that these Marxist "Catholic" Democrat politicians feel emboldened to do whatever they want and claim to be good Catholics. But in same vein, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are still Baptist "Reverends" in good standing, and nobody can even locate the "church" they supposed minister to.

86 posted on 01/03/2015 10:10:53 PM PST by BillyBoy (Thanks to RINOs, Illinois has definitely become a "red state" -- we are run by Communists!)
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To: BillyBoy

Paprocki is who my mom wanted. She’s met him, I believe.


87 posted on 01/03/2015 10:35:30 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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