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Bodies and Debris Found in Search for AirAsia Plane, Rescue Teams Say
NYTimes ^ | 12-30-2014 | Thomas Fuller

Posted on 12/30/2014 12:29:43 AM PST by tcrlaf

Indonesian rescue teams said Tuesday that they had found bodies and what appeared to be debris from the AirAsia plane that vanished shortly after taking off from the airport here on Sunday.

Members of search teams told the Indonesian news media that they had spotted what appeared to be suitcases, life vests and aircraft debris. Indonesian television showed a rescuer descending from a helicopter toward a bloated corpse floating in the sea.

The debris was found in the Karimata Strait off the coast of Borneo. Search teams also spotted what appeared to be a larger piece of the fuselage of the plane, which was operated by the Indonesian affiliate of AirAsia.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: airasia; crash; debris; indonesia; qz8501
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To: SeekAndFind
what should they have used instead?


41 posted on 12/30/2014 7:29:42 AM PST by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: ltc8k6

Don’t the pitot tube thingys have heating elements on them?


42 posted on 12/30/2014 8:02:39 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: tcrlaf

Hmmm...the dichotomy between 2 alleged ‘at-sea’ losses of aircraft (I am, of course, referencing MH370 and the lack of debris)...


43 posted on 12/30/2014 8:09:11 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: rjsimmon

AOA probes are used in all phases of flight in fly by wire aircraft.


44 posted on 12/30/2014 8:12:51 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: rjsimmon

FWIW I have 15 years flying A320 series. 15 years in Boeing, and 3 years in Douglas aircraft.


45 posted on 12/30/2014 8:15:03 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

All external gauges are heated to prevent icing, no?


46 posted on 12/30/2014 8:16:11 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: sheikdetailfeather

from your news update link:

“8 more bodies spotted, 4 of them are holding hands”

Heartbreaking...


47 posted on 12/30/2014 8:32:22 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Tzfat
AOA probes are used in all phases of flight in fly by wire aircraft.

Not in the context you were espousing. AOA is an indicator for max cruise or L/D Max but not when you are deciding whether or not to fly through a boomer. My CO directed our squadron to fly through some thunder heads and caught hell from the Group CO when two birds came back with hail damage. The PIC made a fatal mistake in not diverting around the storm. AOA played no part in that decision.

48 posted on 12/30/2014 8:34:58 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: wita

If I remember correctly, just before the AirAsia plane crashed, a Lion Air airliner flying almost the same route was forced to return to its originating airport when the flight crew found it too difficult to fly the plane in the massive thunderstorms over the Java Sea.


49 posted on 12/30/2014 8:35:52 AM PST by RayChuang88 (Ferguson: put your hands down and go to work!)
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To: rjsimmon

Regarding the A320 and short of grounding them, training will have to be modified to engage deeper into flying MANUALLY, relying less on ‘auto’ this and that. The A320’s history is discouraging to would-be passengers now.


50 posted on 12/30/2014 8:39:59 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Tzfat
FWIW I have 15 years flying A320 series. 15 years in Boeing, and 3 years in Douglas aircraft.

Impressive. Several pilots I flew with in the Corps are all heavy drivers now. My folks used to build Boeing, MD, Northrup and Lockheed.

51 posted on 12/30/2014 9:06:21 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: CodeToad

Java for graphics and entertainment systems - yes. For mission critical s/w - no. Go with Ada or MISRA C. (But you probably already knew that CodeToad :-) ).


52 posted on 12/30/2014 9:58:24 AM PST by PrairieDawg
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To: CodeToad; SeekAndFind; Chickensoup

Fascinating mini-discussion of programming languages and techniques used for avionics programming and their rationals:

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Which-is-Major-Programming-language-141158.S.93712052


53 posted on 12/30/2014 10:11:05 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

- Airbus has a carbon fibrr rudder assembly

- Carbon Fiber vertical tail surfaces have a modulus of elasticity like Michael Jordon described Barack Hussein Obama Junior’s gold game : SHI-TY

- One quick movement and the piece of crap snaps

- See Sept 2011 crash in NY

- There is no logical reason that a simple “breakaway” locator cannot be fitted tp commercial airline aircraft

- But what do I know?


54 posted on 12/30/2014 10:25:32 AM PST by devolve (They called me mad, and I called them mad, and damn them, they outvoted me. --Nathaniel Lee)
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To: CodeToad
Airbus is heavy into Java. Imagine using Java to control airplanes.

Now it's really heavy into Java. The Java Sea, that is.

55 posted on 12/30/2014 10:32:22 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: eartrumpet

“Now it’s really heavy into Java. The Java Sea, that is.”

lol. Nice. Sad, but you really can’t tell the French anything.


56 posted on 12/30/2014 10:38:05 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anything but an undeterministic and managed language.


57 posted on 12/30/2014 10:38:55 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: djf

Yes, now the families know and will be able to have services ad bury their family members. Hopefully all will be recovered.


58 posted on 12/30/2014 11:32:50 AM PST by caww
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To: devolve

Interesting. Thank you.


59 posted on 12/30/2014 11:43:11 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CodeToad

I’m still remembering that Airbus that broke its own vertical stabilizer off trying to leave Long Island a few years ago. That’s just poorass/weakass/halfassed design that shouldn’t be allowed in the real world.


60 posted on 12/30/2014 11:56:48 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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