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I am not philosopher or theologian but I find an inherent contradiction between items (6), (7), (8) compared to (9). If (9) is true then that means items (6) - (8) do not have to be followed. If I believe the right way to live is to lie, and cheat to get what I want then why it is binding I have to care about others. I bet a real atheist like Nietzsche would pat these milquetoast atheists on the head and ask them to try again. For these atheists they might not be believers but they have absorbed so much of the Judeo-Christian ethic they can't avoid incorporating them into their own version of the 10- Commandments.
1 posted on 12/23/2014 4:50:03 AM PST by C19fan
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If someone feels that they are inherently, or unconditionally more intelligent and rational than others, for an incredibly fallacious set of reasons, then what would you expect?


2 posted on 12/23/2014 4:52:58 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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How cute, the atheists acknowledged God in their own 10 commandments.


3 posted on 12/23/2014 4:56:01 AM PST by CrappieLuck
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Leftists, by all of their brand names, ALWAYS reject God and His perfect wisdom.

Here are the “Ten Non-Commandments”:

1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.

2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.

3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.

4. Every person has the right to control of their body.

5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.

6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.

7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.

8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.

9. There is no one right way to live.

10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.


4 posted on 12/23/2014 4:57:47 AM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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Isn’t the whole point of being atheist not having rules?


5 posted on 12/23/2014 4:59:06 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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This list is promoting nothing but a morality-free lifestyle. This is disgusting. Without a moral compass, we are all adrift in the sea.


6 posted on 12/23/2014 5:04:30 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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But in our own more enlightened age

The reporter loses me at this point. With respect for atheists, most especially for those who at least have "wrestled" with the possibility of an Open Universe, a personal God, most of the clowns who want it known that they are atheists are motivated by rationalized personal resentments and other petty patterns of egoism. It takes more faith to follow these non-commandments, while walking and acting in the Universe within an atheist model, than it does to simply "be a Hindu" like your neighbors. I respect that, but not the contradiction that arises from disturbing the peace of neighbors under the guise of love.

There's a world of difference between the integral atheist and the popularizer of what is, in fact, just another form of idolatry.

8 posted on 12/23/2014 5:12:05 AM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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If one wanted a simple set of rules for all, the golden rule would be a good start. Add to the that the basic premise of libertarianism, i.e., “Initiate no force against another” and then add the obvious caution that one’s freedom cannot compromise the freedom of another and you’ve got about 95% of the necessary law.

It’s the other 5% that feeds the lawyers and the judiciary so well


10 posted on 12/23/2014 5:23:24 AM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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Behold, atheists

It matters little because God doesn't believe in atheist.

11 posted on 12/23/2014 5:23:58 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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The vast majority of the world’s religions are crowdsourced; atheists are playing the me-too game (similar to vegans and their tofurky).

Even the true God-given faiths have accumulated a lot of crowdsourced crud over the ages. It’s nothing to brag about. The Bible teaches that man’s reasoning ability was corrupted by the Fall as much as his moral compass was, so just about anything man has to add to God’s perfect wisdom is going to be rubbish by comparison.


13 posted on 12/23/2014 5:47:37 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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“nothing specifically about murder, stealing or adultery, although there is a version of the Golden Rule, which presumably would cover those crimes.”

I guess murder-suicide is OK.

14 posted on 12/23/2014 5:48:56 AM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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Leave the world a better place than you found it.

Why? Seriously -- why? If there is no God, why do they care about any of the things on their list? If you are stronger than anyone around you, why not just take from everyone else? If you see a woman you think is good looking, why not rape her? There is no reason to live a "good" life if you can be happier living a "bad" life if there is no external morality in the universe.

Its like Woody Allen's "Crimes and Misdemeanors." The only thing that stops someone from murdering a person who is causing them trouble is their own feelings of guilt, and eventually those feelings subside.

If you truly are an atheist, this list is complete BS. Its a vestige and legacy of humanism, which in and of itself is simply an attempt to reconcile their Godless world to Christian morality. Atheists don't want to face the reality that without external morality --without God -- there is no reason to adhere to anything on their list.

15 posted on 12/23/2014 5:49:35 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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This is why I avoid CNN.


16 posted on 12/23/2014 5:49:37 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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My answer to an atheists 10 Commandments is “Sez Who”!


17 posted on 12/23/2014 5:51:08 AM PST by AU72
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The latest “rule” that seems to be popping up is “Do unto others before they do unto you.”


18 posted on 12/23/2014 5:51:29 AM PST by CPOSharky (I was born with nothing, and I still have most of it.)
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The only thing atheists - in my experience - don’t want to talk about is the nature of the universe, which requires a little science and, I believe comes to God. They scatter like buckshot.


19 posted on 12/23/2014 5:52:23 AM PST by onedoug
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I can’t really say I have a problem with 80% of the list, except that it is not a list of commandments (i.e. laws). The exceptions are #4—which is a euphemism for saying that women have a right to irresponsibly get pregnant and then kill the kid, and #5—because religious faith has a huge influence on social behaviors that are necessary for civilization to function.

Numbers 1-3 basically say that it is irrational to rigidly hold on to a belief when it is clearly contradicted by facts and evidence. This can apply to anything—for example, the people who hold on to anti-vaccine beliefs, despite the fact that not a shred of evidence condemns vaccines, and mountains of evidence support their central role in individual and public health.

However, #1-3 cannot be commandments, since they do not deal with moral questions.

Numbers 6-8 and 10 are all concepts that are found in the Bible, albeit paraphrased. They also are not commandments, because most of the commandments deal fundamentally with crimes that interfere with the smooth function of society, like murder and theft. Without a legal framework to deal with crime, with the infringement of one person’s rights by another person, those concepts are rather meaningless.

Number 9—well, I have never seen that any two people live exactly the same way. That’s one of those things that is so obvious and fundamental, I have to wonder why someone is trying to elevate it to the status of commandment.


23 posted on 12/23/2014 6:20:19 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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As self claimed logical thinkers, this crowd source methodology is itself a logical fallacy. I.e. everyone is doing it


24 posted on 12/23/2014 6:28:14 AM PST by Raycpa
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Here, let me translate for you:

1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence. (Unless the evidence points to an Intelligent Designer, in which case disregard it.)

2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true. (But see the exception to rule #1.)

3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world. (But we'll use it to make pronouncements about non-physical realities, from the spiritual to the moral, when it suits us.)

4. Every person has the right to control of their body. (Unless they are Christians, in which case they must put their bodies to work for us; e.g., baking cakes for homosexual unions.)

5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life. (Yeah, this isn't a commandment, but since when have we ever been coinsistant when it didn't suit us?)

6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them. (We'll ignore that without God, there is no reason why this is would be true--all that matters is what you can get away with in this life.)

7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective. (Unless they're those religious nuts--you should demonize and mock them every chance you get.)

8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations. (Vote the way we tell you to.)

9. There is no one right way to live. (Just all the ways we consider to be wrong.)

10. Leave the world a better place than you found it. (True, this is just repeating #8, but we're running out of things to say and need to end on a sanctimonious note.)

30 posted on 12/23/2014 7:25:53 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.com)
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Not surprisingly, the atheists have basically rediscovered the Natural Law, even going beyond it to include the Golden Rule, which enjoins positive obligations, not just prohibitions.

None of this makes sense without a divine lawmaker, however. Dostoevsky was right. Without God everything is permissible.


32 posted on 12/23/2014 7:44:29 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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