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Man’s Family Speaks After He Killed NYPD Officers & Shot Ex-Girlfriend In Md.
WJZ-TV ^ | December 22, 2014 | Mike Hellgren

Posted on 12/22/2014 4:22:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

BALTIMORE (WJZ) –The deadly incident all started in Maryland when the suspect accused of shooting his ex-girlfriend at her apartment in Owings Mills before then taking a bus to New York City and shooting two police officers there.

Investigator Mike Hellgren has some of the first public comments from the suspect’s family.

The suspect, Ismaaiyl Brinsley’s began his fateful journey on the way to New York City at a bus stop on Maryland Avenue in Baltimore.

New York authorities said Brinsley tried to kill himself in Maryland before making the trip. They also said there’s a 2-hour window where they do not know his whereabouts.

For the first time, we’re hearing from Mr. Brinsley’s family....

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimore.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Maryland; US: New York
KEYWORDS: copkiller
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To: Mark17
For a paycheck. 😊 ---- Whew!! I thought I was about to have to agree with you 100% of the time. I feel safer now.
21 posted on 12/22/2014 5:38:53 PM PST by boycott
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To: CatOwner

The never ending legacy of slavery combined with institutional racism in society is the problem. He also encountered demeaning latent racism in his encounters with white people and law enforcement which naturally lead to his acting out on his frustrations.It’s amazing more blacks aren’t acting out on their justifiable rage.It’s time that we as white people understand that we are duty bound to let blacks beat us,kill us,and burn us out so they can feel better about themselves.This is the change that we’ve been waiting for!


22 posted on 12/22/2014 5:41:42 PM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: bonehead4freedom

Wouldn’t it be a lot simpler to just stop living in 1860?


23 posted on 12/22/2014 5:45:26 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: TADSLOS
right??? everything but "He was an aspiring crapper just turning his life atound..."
24 posted on 12/22/2014 5:45:46 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: boycott; Mark17

He should have gone with: ‘I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die...’?


25 posted on 12/22/2014 5:47:16 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: tacticalogic
Then Al & Jesse will have to go actually pastor Churches!
26 posted on 12/22/2014 5:49:09 PM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: sheana

I can see the remake of Street Car Named Desire. “Hey, Jaala’a.


27 posted on 12/22/2014 6:10:28 PM PST by healy61
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To: Chode

Lol.


28 posted on 12/22/2014 6:16:08 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: El Cid
He should have gone with: ‘I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die...’?

Maybe so. I know it's just a song, but I wonder if Johnny Cash ever thought it strange that he was stuck in Folsom Prison (Sacramento, CA, because he shot a man in Reno (Nevada). Makes sense to me. 😊 I was never at Folsom, but I did spend time at San Quentin.

29 posted on 12/22/2014 6:21:18 PM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my savior, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: bonehead4freedom
Then Al & Jesse will have to go actually pastor Churches!

They would never survive the lightning strikes, and neither would anyone standing near them.

30 posted on 12/22/2014 6:24:57 PM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my savior, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: MeshugeMikey
I can’t wait for the book...

And after the book, can a movie be that far behind? The tension is killing me.

31 posted on 12/22/2014 6:34:34 PM PST by upchuck (Too much ME, not enough G.)
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To: upchuck
theyve been shopping it around and so far only sony has returned their calls

they want Obie to play thier "kid"



oops wrong costume....thats the one he will be wearing for INTERVIEW II...
32 posted on 12/22/2014 6:38:24 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

33 posted on 12/22/2014 7:07:21 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: boycott

Not saying that it applies in this case, we don’t know enough, but I have seen loving, caring, intact families who failed in frustration to find help and solutions to family members suffering from violent mental derangement. The law, the medical providers, the System doesn’t exist to deal with this. Many, if not most, violent offenders behind bars are clinical psychotics who were not under treatment when they offended. 50 years ago, they would have been in state asylums. Certainly not an ideal solution but at least society would be safe from them, and they’d be safe from society.

One of these unfortunates was shot five times by officers under my command and killed. He was running around terrorizing a suburban housing plan, swinging a kbar knife. It wasn’t the first time, he did it not two weeks prior in the neighboring town. That time he was disarmed by a skillful baton strike and swarmed. He was a long time schizophrenic and was duly committed according to the law. However, once his meds were adjusted, he could no longer be held and was released onto the street, where he promptly quit taking his meds and became psychotic again.

This time, having learned from his previous encounter, he had wired the knife to his hand. Three officers kept him covered with their sidearms while two tried again and again to disarm him and separate him from the knife. As one would feint the other would attempt to strike the knife hand with a baton. Five cans of pepper spray were expended and three batons broken, to no apparent effect. His arm was broken in two places. They even beaned him with a landscaping rock, causing what our celebrity medical examiner later ruled a “non-survivable” skull fracture, yet he remained on his feet for 40 minutes as the battle moved through backyards and into a wooded area.

Finally after another attempted baton strike, my officer backed as the guy again swung the knife at him, and my officer got his feet tangled in the underbrush and fell. The actor lunged at him and three opened fire. The fired five shots, connecting in the torso with three and the extremities with two. One clipped his aortic arch and he died. Notably, one went through his hand holding the knife and still didn’t dislodge it.

I went to his father’s house to deliver the notification. I was accompanied by a deputy county coroner. It was now late at night. As I got out of my car in front if the house he greeted us from the door saying, “Had to put him down, did you?” I was stunned. He invited us inside. We sat at his kitchen table while he laid out the whole story. Normal white teenage suburban kid. No indication of mental illness, when one day in his 18th year, he was sitting at this same table, talking and joking with his best friend. Without saying a word, he got up from the table and went out to the garage. When he came back, he had a claw hammer and with no warning struck his friend repeatedly with it, nearly killing him.

Thus began his descent into violent, paranoid schizophrenia. Cycle after cycle he would try to kill someone, be hospitalized and treated and when the medication took effect, he would become something like his old affable self and then be released. You cannot be held anymore if you are no longer psychotic.

But he hated the feelings and side effects of the meds. He became adept at avoiding them, tonguing the pills until he could spit then out or otherwise faking taking them. Soon he would go psychotic again, attack someone - lather, rinse repeat. His family was in greatest peril. Dad told us of how he would sleep with a gun under his pillow and finally gave up sleep altogether as he would sit awake, watching his son sleep in fear of a repeat of the episode where he awoke and saw his son standing over him with a butcher knife.

Throughout all of this he begged doctors, hospitals and courts to keep his son in secure custody, for his protection and the protection of those around him. It was in vain. Once his meds were on board and adjusted, he could no longer be held and was released, and the cycle would repeat.

Dad said he knew that his son was coming there to kill him when we intervened. He had called and threatened his dad that afternoon. Dad showed us the gun he was going to use to defend himself from his son if we hadn’t stopped him. He apologized to us for us having to kill his son. He said he was thankful none of our guys were hurt.

I was speechless. What do you say to a dad who just lost his son to a disease for which he couldn’t get treatment? He didn’t blame us. He blamed the disease.

That was many years ago. Today I blame the disease too, and I have never had qualms about what my officers did that day. But you know what, I DO blame the ‘System’. It failed this troubled young man and failed his family who struggled in vain for years to find help for him. Sorry but I expect a little better from our society and institutions that indulge in their liberal fantasies about mental illness and those who suffer from it. The rise in homelessness, bag ladies and hobos shuffling along talking to themselves. It didn’t come from Reagan’s economic policies but rather from muddle headed liberalism that shut down the state hospital system and ‘liberated’ these unfortunate people out into the street with no good alternatives but to sleep in culverts and urinate on sidewalks and freeze to death and sometimes kill and be killed by the police.


34 posted on 12/22/2014 7:11:53 PM PST by SargeK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Things gettin very racy
35 posted on 12/22/2014 7:12:52 PM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: El Cid

Ah, Johnny Cash, Folsom Prison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MSkQlZy5e0


36 posted on 12/22/2014 7:15:13 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Mark17

I don’t believe a single solitary word of it. I was in California prisons for 25 years. Prisons are now the de facto asylums. They GET the mental health treatment by law. She is full of BS.

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Every state is different.


37 posted on 12/22/2014 7:17:24 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: boycott
Saw this in your post:   Jalaa’a   and saved myself the time required for reading another whining dose of YT's fault.
38 posted on 12/22/2014 7:17:27 PM PST by tomkat (unapologetically anglo-saxon)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
According to her, prison was supposed to fix her POS brother. She's obviously as messed up as he was. How about her family had a duty to keep him away from the rest of us! I'm so sick of this nonsense.
39 posted on 12/22/2014 7:19:22 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SargeK

But you know what, I DO blame the ‘System’. It failed this troubled young man and failed his family who struggled in vain for years to find help for him. Sorry but I expect a little better from our society and institutions that indulge in their liberal fantasies about mental illness and those who suffer from it. The rise in homelessness, bag ladies and hobos shuffling along talking to themselves. It didn’t come from Reagan’s economic policies but rather from muddle headed liberalism that shut down the state hospital system and ‘liberated’ these unfortunate people out into the street with no good alternatives but to sleep in culverts and urinate on sidewalks and freeze to death and sometimes kill and be killed by the police.

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I work in the field. Many of us think that we need to reopen the large psychiatric institutions that the leftists closed in the seventies. These people need a place to be safe from being perpetrated upon, where medication is not an option and where the public is safe from them. Leftists are stupid and think that people with thought disorders will somehow see the light and take medication voluntarily that puts them into a mental straight jacket.

We essentially operate a catch and release program that leaves many choosing the streets, and horrific living conditions. We are seeing diseases not seen in any form since the 30’s. Saw my first case in 40 years of untreated tertiary syphilis and it was in a Cauc elderly woman.

We should be ashamed as a nation that we do not care for these tragic and vulnerable people. Three hots and a cot, oversight by the nice people in white jackets, and medications, and some work to do on the farm would go a long way to alleviate suffering in those who can. And then there are those who cannot do much more than eat and sleep. They to need safety. This population bleeds into the mentally retarded who need care beyond what any one family can give. I am aware of three murder suicides of parent/caregiver and MR older child.

These vulnerable people were once chained in attics and basements if not outright killed by family or community. The institutes that were build were there to provide a release for the family and safety. Some did a lousy job, and we have learned from it. These can be good places with oversight and care. I pray that we are able to do the right thing, for the only other option as resources get slimmer, is that the government will have a plan to murder these poor souls. And if the government does this, we as a nation will end. For what we do for the least, matters.


40 posted on 12/22/2014 7:34:54 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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