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He beat that Obamacare deadline. Did you?
CNBC ^ | December 22, 2014 | by Dan Mangan

Posted on 12/22/2014 3:05:49 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

New York City resident Nicolas Karlson was happy to be one of at least 2.5 million people who beat a major Obamacare enrollment deadline last week, but he's going to be paying a lot more for health insurance next year because of it.

To cover himself, his wife, Monica, and their three children, 45-year-old Karlson will go from paying $1,805 every three months for their long-standing Aetna plan, to a new one from New York State's Obamacare exchange that will cost them $1,221.60 per month, or more than 100 percent more than his old plan cost.

That steep bump in price is a result of Aetna's reacting to a feature in the Affordable Care Act, a law that Karlson said of with a laugh, "I literally had no idea that it would affect me at all."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; grubercare; obamacare; obamacareenrollment; rinocare; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So I wondered what happened that caused “Aetna’s reacting to a feature in the Affordable Care Act”.

So I soiled myself by even clicking, and here's what I found:

The Affordable Care Act mandated a set of “essential health benefits” that all insurance plans had to cover, which included preventative services, ER visits, pediatric vision and dental care and mental health care. That mandate rendered many plans non-compliant with the law.

Pre-existing plans, or grandfathered plans, were allowed to continue under the ACA, but only if insurers made no significant changes to coverage. And in response to the troubled launch of HealthCare.gov last year, the Obama administration has allowed the option of other non-compliant plans continuing through 2017.

But not all states or insurers have taken up that option, or maintained it for their customers.

Although Karlson’s non-compliant plan was allowed to continue in Obamacare’s first year, Aetna pulled the plug for 2015 ...

... Despite the big increase in price, Karlson was ready to stay with an Aetna plan.

That changed when he called a rep for Aetna “to check on something. That was when the person I spoke to said, ‘Oh, just so you know, there's no out-of-network coverage,’ “ Karlson recalled.

In other words, he'd have to pay out of pocket for any doctors who weren't in Aetna’s network of providers.

That was a problem for him because “a good deal of our doctors are out of network” and their services had been covered by the old plan, Karlson said.

21 posted on 12/22/2014 3:20:35 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Gaffer

He can’t pitch a baseball.


22 posted on 12/22/2014 3:20:51 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Resettozero

Imho, he’s a domestic enemy, and traitor.


23 posted on 12/22/2014 3:21:31 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
He beat that Obamacare deadline. Did you?

Doggone! Did I miss it again?

24 posted on 12/22/2014 3:24:45 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: PapaNew
In fact, there are deadlines for these illegal requirements, and waivers until 2017 IF the state and insurance companies want to continue grandfathered plans (HA!).

This is truly a law for all the land, except the 3000+ groups that are FOB that get exceptions or exclusions or omission or ...

And it does nothing to be revenue neutral.

25 posted on 12/22/2014 3:27:14 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obamascare is soooooooo affordable ay? What a cluster copulation.


26 posted on 12/22/2014 3:27:33 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyrannye dontchyaknow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

27 posted on 12/22/2014 3:38:25 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What are the odds that this doofus voted for Obama?


28 posted on 12/22/2014 3:40:21 PM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: trisham

And that as well.


29 posted on 12/22/2014 3:50:36 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: tflabo

Copulation requires a male and a female.


30 posted on 12/22/2014 3:51:48 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: PROCON

“If you, like, like your Doctor, you can, like, keep the Doctor you like … like.”


31 posted on 12/22/2014 4:11:42 PM PST by mikrofon (Merry Christmas! BUMP)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Think of all the Hernandez’, Gonzalez’, Ramirez’, Jimenez’, and etc., whose births will be paid in full because of Karlson’s giving ways!


32 posted on 12/22/2014 4:30:09 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Gaffer

or in electrician’s parlance, he’s the socket.


33 posted on 12/22/2014 4:45:20 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: trisham

not surprising, the majority of girls can’t.


34 posted on 12/22/2014 4:46:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nothing like learning the hard way,whether it’s by your vote or your new “affordable” insurance premium.


35 posted on 12/22/2014 4:49:51 PM PST by oldtech
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nothing like learning the hard way,whether it’s by your vote or your new “affordable” insurance premium.


36 posted on 12/22/2014 4:50:07 PM PST by oldtech
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sorry for the double post;I’m presently experiencing computer problems


37 posted on 12/22/2014 4:51:08 PM PST by oldtech
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“A bill that says to someone, if you want to be creative and be a musician or whatever, you can leave your work, focus on your talent, your skill, your passion, your aspirations because you will have health care.”
-Nasty Pelosi

Don't forget all you tax paying chumps. April 15 is tax day. Millions are counting on you.
38 posted on 12/22/2014 5:17:45 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: texas booster; aMorePerfectUnion; beaversmom; cloudmountain; cripplecreek; CyberAnt; DBeers; ...
This is truly a law for all the land

What is the Law of the Land? Is it whatever some rogue group of politicians in Washington D.C. who reside in Congress say it is? Is it whatever nine black-robed lawyers say it is? Is it whatever the resident of the White House says it is?

Do we live under the Rule of Law or the Rule of Man?

America was founded to exist under the Rule of Law which prescribes freedom, not the Rule of Man which prescribes tyranny.

So what is the Rule of Law in America? Well let the Constitution, the true Rule of Law, tell you:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land (U.S. Const. Art IV, Cl 2).

Obamacare is not only unconstitutional, and therefore NOT the law of the land, but it is unjust because it deprives individuals of their God-given freedom to choose. As William Blackstone, a prominent authority of the common law and natural law from the 1700's said, an unjust law is really no law at all.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/natlaw/

So Obamacare is not only not the Law of the Land because it is unconstitutional, but it also NO LAW because it is an unjust law.

The states need to nullify this illegal act and begin doing the same with every unconstitutional federal act or judicial decision and be prepared for financial independence from the federal government.

39 posted on 12/22/2014 5:37:32 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why is there a deadline for signing up for insurance? Why can’t I buy insurance from whomever I want whenever I want? Just like car insurance, home insurance, life insurance or whatever?


40 posted on 12/22/2014 5:40:49 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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