Posted on 12/22/2014 3:52:23 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Shout out the homie who shot those cops in Brooklyn.
What do we want? came the shouted question from the marchers in New York City on Dec. 13.
Dead cops! came the reply.
When do we want it?
Now!
It took seven days, perhaps too long to satisfy the mobs impatience, but now that they have two dead police officers, how many more will they want?
I have for years instructed young police officers placed in my charge that they cannot go about their duties thinking everyone they meet will try to kill them. But, I warn them, nor can they forget that some people will. With this unsettling fact in mind, police officers train for various scenarios in which they might find themselves endangered. How will we respond if that liquor store on the corner is being robbed? Can we see inside? Is there a back door? Is there a getaway car idling nearby? Could there be a layoff man waiting unseen for the opportunity to ambush us?
Or take a scenario as simple as a traffic stop. How many people are in the car? What are they doing as we approach? Are they tracking us in the mirrors? Can we see their hands? Where is our closest cover if one of them pulls a gun? Will bystanders be endangered if we have to open fire?
The scenarios and the questions are endless, and they are on every police officers mind constantly, if not always consciously, as he goes through his day at work. Perhaps Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos were having just this type of discussion as they sat in their parked police car in Brooklyn Saturday afternoon.
What police officers do not often discuss or at least they didnt until Saturday is what to do if someone sneaks up behind you and without warning shoots you in the head.
It would be comforting to say that Saturdays assassinations were simply the tragic denouement of one mans descent into evil, and that police officers in New York and elsewhere neednt concern themselves with the likelihood of similar attacks in the future. Sadly, this does not appear to be the case as the monster who killed Officers Liu and Ramos, though now deceased himself, has fans and sympathizers who have been unreserved in going online to express their approval of his deeds. The Daily Caller has some examples, among which is someone who took to Twitter and wrote, Shout out the homie who shot those cops in Brooklyn.
I wont identify the Twitter user who wrote that, but if youre curious you can find him easily enough. And if you do, and if you read his tweets, youll see that the man is a cretin, a fact he proves, 140 characters at a time, beyond reasonable doubt. But a shout-out is a shout-out, and for someone whose life is devoid of approbation, as the killers was, a shout-out from a cretin is better than none at all. Indeed the killer himself boasted of his plans online, and in the moments before shooting the officers he invited people on the street to watch what Im going to do. It is beyond naive to deny there are others out there every bit as malevolent as the Brooklyn killer and every bit as hungry for recognition.
It goes without saying that the coming days and weeks will be trying for the men and women of the NYPD. Tensions in any police department always rise when an officer is killed on the job, and given the circumstances of Saturdays horrors they will be especially elevated now. It will be a test of leadership at all levels of the department, most especially for the commissioner, William Bratton. It will be his task to straddle the unbridgeable divide between New Yorks cops and its political structure, most notably Mayor Bill de Blasio, in whom the rank and file of the NYPD have lost what little trust they might have had in him before Saturdays murders, a fact made abundantly clear when officers turned their backs on him at the hospital where Officers Liu and Ramos died. There is simply no repairing the relationship between the cops and the mayor. Given his earlier statements, any attempt by de Blasio at a rapprochement will be seen by the cops as shallow and insincere. Mr. Brattons only hope is to keep the rift from widening even further by insulating his cops from the nonsense emitting from City Hall.
Recall that in the wake of the Staten Island grand jurys decision not to indict the police officers involved in the death of Eric Garner, Mr. de Blasio spoke of warning his biracial son about the dangers inherent in encounters with police officers. Chirlane and I have had to talk to Dante for years about the dangers that he may face, he said. [He is a] good young man, law abiding young man, never would think to do anything wrong, and yet because of the history that still hangs over us, the dangers he may face. Weve had to literally train him, as families have all over this city for decades, in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him.
A question for Mr. de Blasio: If Dante were to find himself strolling along Tomkins Avenue in Brooklyn some afternoon, who would present the greater danger, the NYPD officers patrolling the neighborhood, or the hoodlums lodged in the local housing projects? Its a question that shouldnt even require thought, yet the answer forces anyone of de Blasios leftist inclinations to grapple with the discomfiting fact that, though crime in New York is at record lows, blacks are still responsible for a staggeringly disproportionate amount of it. If you were to check the NYPDs crime map, you would see that through November of this year there had been two murders and 27 felony assaults in the four square blocks surrounding the intersection where Officers Liu and Ramos were killed. Who does Mr. de Blasio suppose is committing these crimes, and what does he tell his son about them?
The political theater of New York City, with a cast of characters found nowhere else, is often enjoyable to watch from the safe remove of the opposite coast, but with so much at stake it is painful to observe now. Amid all the heated rhetoric and pointed fingers, New Yorks police officers are expected to go out every day and place themselves between the law-abiding and the lawless. Incredibly, they must do so without being altogether certain which of these sides their mayor is on.
Interesting that those who are protected as a special-rights species want the cops who act as a barrier between them and justice to be gone. If it weren’t for my propensity to see things that aren’t there, I would almost think there is a movement to marginalize all cops and open the door for a much bigger Federal “Police Corps” down the road. As the Feds take more and more power, it is the logical solution when it comes to full-blown control.
The problem there is that the citizenry are more heavily armed than any other in history.
Much of the war involves a onslaught of mental and emotional attacks/diversions/obfuscations - much probably aimed at preventing the People from recognizing the tipping point as it slides past. Now I'm starting to feel all conspiracy theory but it took a long education to become so suspicious.
In the same way DeBlasio claims he’s had to discuss with his son the facts of life with cops, I’ve had to have that discussion with my “white” children...and I also had to have a discussion with them about young blacks that DeBlasio didn’t have to have. Maybe now that cops are in the crosshairs in the same manner whites have been with “polar bear hunting” and “knockout games”, we can expect some real prosecutions for both.
A friend in law enforcement described where the cops went wrong; if you aren’t in a secure place, you park the car, stand against a wall (securing your rear), eat your lunch, then carry on. The guy who attacked the cops with an axe only got to them because they were psoing for pictures; otherwise I think they were in such a position (the guy was moving up on them but needed an opening).
Shouldn't the words, "before _______________ " (something goes in the blank)
" ... before the people say enough is enough ansd vigilantism puts a stop to the uprising."
I would think a couple of citizen responses would be sufficient for the natives to put away their drums and stop hopping around the bonfire.
The reply was, “they'll be the first to go”.
The US, supposedly “led” by BHO has spun out of control, in a downward fashion. All the worst that America had to offer was spun, like a top, faster, faster, ever so downward.
We are witnessing unjustified civil upheaval not seen since the summer of ‘67.
We have only the current administration to thank for that. Law and order MUST be spelled out by the President, not DICTATED by a “King” with no clothes...
the cretins will want as many as possible, but the backlash from the Brooklyn murders has, in my opinion, caused at least a momentary pause from the leaders of the protests.
Screaming that you want a person with a certain job dead at a rally is just something that a leftist protester does. For them the words really only serve to get media attention.
However, when their low-IQ followers translate what the protesters have called for into actual deeds; the leaders of the protests are forced to realize the way in which they protest have real world consequences.
The leftist playbook simply says to protest about an issue until the desired change is accomplished and then move on to the next issue. This is what the protesters have been doing since the Furgeson, Mo. protests.
However, their protests have had unintended (from the liberal perspective) consequences. Although they called for cops to be killed; they did not expect any cops to actually be targeted.
The protesters have blood on their hands and the moral high ground of peaceful protest has been lost. The protesters understand this and have now called out for peaceful protests only.
But the mindless mantra of the political left has unleashed an animal that will be returned to its cage only with great difficulty, and many more police officers will be attacked and/or killed because of it.
In this case, all the evidence suggests that you are not just imagining things this time. A greater sense of chaos will have Mr. and Mrs. America clamoring for greater protection, up to and including martial law. Remember - just like at the time of the Revolution (and the pre-creation rebellion by Lucifer), one third of the people just want to be taken care of, and will give up their freedom to get it.
Bad guys are not suit and tie embeds or otherwise hard to spot, and they're usually "caught" in the midst of a crime, so justice can be immediately served
I remember a thread like that about six months ago and I was a proponent of a return to instant justice
There may be whack jobs in society, but they only get to be old and bold enough to BE a whack job because they were not "dealt with" at an earlier age.
.. and there will always be plenty of bleeding heart softies that will prevent the 'immediate justice' proponents from 'getting out of control'.
Let's face it ... we've (America) been around long enough to have made the mistakes and corrected them to a point ... we really DO know how to live peacefully without a myriad of laws and law/government intrusions into our normal citizen lives
All the NYPD should agree with the protestors and take 30 days off to reflect upon their sins. With all of the NYC gun laws on the books the citizenry should have no problem taking care of themselves.
I’ve thought the same exact thing!
“In the same way DeBlasio claims hes had to discuss with his son the facts of life with cops, Ive had to have that discussion with my white children...and I also had to have a discussion with them about young blacks that DeBlasio didnt have to have. “
I’m guessing that DeBlasio’s half white/half black son attends a very exclusive private school. No social problems there I’m betting. Also, probably is chauffeur’ed about and provide security by those nefarious, racist NYC Cops his dad cautioned him to beware of. Sarc/
Proposing this type of action shows a dangerous level of ignorance of the modern ‘justus’ system. It really doesn’t matter right or wrong, unless you are in the government and thereby automatically exempt from all liability, you will be destroyed. Citizens who protect themselves or others will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Even if one is (eventually) found innocent, the personal cost is incalculable.
Did DeBloodyhands give his son a high five when they heard the news?
Pray America is waking
Many occurences ?
Chapter and verse, please.
Straw man argument
"justice" apparently is unrecognizable unless it's filtered through the media first ?
BS !!!
A guy rapes my daughter, she tells me who, I kill him ... no "alleged" perpetrator ... period
And that's just one example of ... ahem ... "many occurences"
If a gang banger is taken out, that's one less lethal threat to a cops life to worry about
No one talks .. no one moves.
It's just .... justice.
Justice means, in extreme cases, the law is in your hands, like the example, you provided but in mist cases it ain’t black or white and there, you be treading in thin ice...
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