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Cyberattack on German steel factory causes 'massive damage
It World ^ | 12/19/2014 | Loek Essers

Posted on 12/20/2014 1:07:05 PM PST by aimhigh

A German steel factory suffered massive damage after hackers managed to access production networks, allowing them to tamper with the controls of a blast furnace, the government said in its annual IT security report. . . . . .

Due to these failures, one of the plant’s blast furnaces could not be shut down in a controlled manner, which resulted in “massive damage to plant,” the BSI said, describing the technical skills of the attacker as “very advanced.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Germany
KEYWORDS: factory; germany; hacking; steel
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Now we will have to worry about the connection between the nuclear reactor and the internet.

Hopefully there is none.


21 posted on 12/20/2014 1:52:44 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

When I worked in the factory, our robots worked on their own independent computer system.

We would get our orders from GM by way of the internet but I would enter them into our system manually. It was a secure system only vulnerable to pilot error. Outbound info was sent by internet after bar codes were scanned in shipping. Communication within the shop was conducted face to face or over the phone.


22 posted on 12/20/2014 1:54:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: knarf

Absolutely. Society is better off when we have high expectations of ourselves and of each other. We achieve more when the majority of us strive to high standards, vs settling for ‘barely adequate’. That may mean we have to revert to the more tedious, time consuming methods, the same methods that have worked for centuries.


23 posted on 12/20/2014 2:09:04 PM PST by lee martell
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To: 353FMG

Neither of my reactors use any form of programmable digital control, old school analog and discrete digital hardware here. Now, turbine/generator control, that’s digital alright, but the internet connections are send only. No control functions are internet controlled.


24 posted on 12/20/2014 2:18:37 PM PST by MrNeutron1962
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To: ClearCase_guy
Today's technology really ISN'T making our lives better. I think we need to stop. Slow things down.

I'm doing some consulting work looking at what's happening in the payments industry (and, coincidentally, yesterday someone put 10 phony $30 transactions on my debit card, but I digress.)

The global technology-driven changes to the entire world of money is mind-boggling. We won't recognize the banking/retail/P2P/mobile payments space in the next five years. See Money 2020.

There is no way to slow down the global rush of technology in every aspect of our lives, for better or for worse.

25 posted on 12/20/2014 2:27:30 PM PST by Maceman
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To: Maceman
I know what you mean. And I can't really disagree. But I would like to see the 10th Amendnment exercised to the point where one or more states could offer regulatory and tax-related incentives to focus on agriculture and local craftsmanship. Be self-sufficient within the state. Say No to the feds.

If Wyoming or some other state were to offer real sanctuary and freedom, I think people would flock there to get away from the mind-boggling changes which are coming.

Galt's Gulch doesn't have to be a state of mind. And Globalization ought to be a choice.

26 posted on 12/20/2014 2:54:02 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: knarf

Beautifully said. I agree with old school too. Something extremely degenerate has happened to the good old America. How can we get it back?


27 posted on 12/20/2014 3:11:48 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: cripplecreek

I design satellite communications equipment and I agree completely. Some critical systems have no business being connected to the Internet period.


28 posted on 12/20/2014 3:13:34 PM PST by DB
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To: cripplecreek

I’d guess that the intention was a control scheme that allows an outsider to view what’s happening. Orderly shutdown should ALWAYS be in the hands of ONLY the locals, and that system should be isolated from outside view.


29 posted on 12/20/2014 3:19:34 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Internet communication between various departments and factories is a great way of keeping track of inventory and orders etc. An outsider can make a mess but not do physical damage if the physical machinery is isolated from the net.


30 posted on 12/20/2014 3:23:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You say: “If Wyoming or some other state were to offer real sanctuary and freedom, I think people would flock there to get away from the mind-boggling changes which are coming.

Galt’s Gulch doesn’t have to be a state of mind. And Globalization ought to be a choice.”

Grew up that way - grandparents farm - north-woods ‘Plantation”

No electricity on “The Ridge” - battery powered radio and Ford V-8 was about it, as for ‘modernity”.

We always had a years supply of food on hand: in the gardens, in the cellar, in the barns, the coops, the woods and waters.

Good sweet well water - well that never went dry.

‘Free” heat from forests - into our stoves.

No worry about power outages or solar flares - or EMT’s or cyber attacks.

Self-sufficiency = security.

Tens of thousands of years of society lived/survived and even advanced this way - and built civilizations, countries, buildings that anyone today would be hard put to build - and even managed horrific wars.

Long before computers or the Internet were a glimmering thought, I used to opine that the thin line that attaches most of our homes to the pole on the street was the beginning of the end of our self-sufficiency.

No utility bills. No fuel bills. No water bills. No trash stickers.

When you relegate another entity the ability to control your life, your independence, your freedom, everyone’s freedom and thereby civilization, teeters on the dawn of annihilation.

(I do believe there are a handful of ‘Galt’s Gulches’ here and there. I believe there was one in Alaska - but something went suddenly wrong (control got concentrated?) and all were ordered to leave within hours. I’d prefer some small ‘townships’ or “Plantations” like we had. Everyone independent but mutually ‘available’.

“and the meek shall inherit”?


31 posted on 12/20/2014 3:37:49 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: maine-iac7
Distributism is an interesting economic theory. It's basically Christian economics -- popularized by GK Chesterton and Hillaire Belloc in the early 20th century. It may have flaws, but the idea is that individuals should own property. Individuals should have the means of production (food and energy, etc.) under their own control. Political decisions should be made at the lowest possible level, not two thousand miles away in some building full of bureaucrats and civil servants.

Distributism is considered Catholic (it's based on ideas from Pope Leo XIII). I am not Catholic. Some folks see it as socialistic, but I think that is unfair. I don't imagine it will ever be adopted, but the idea that people might have freedom and control over their own lives seems far superior to what we have today.

32 posted on 12/20/2014 4:03:22 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: Rodamala

If you apply FP1 (”Furnace Pack 1”) at Point “R” I think you will be good to go for another 100 years.


33 posted on 12/20/2014 4:04:40 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: aimhigh

This crap will continue until the penalty for malicious hacking and identity theft is death.


34 posted on 12/20/2014 5:12:16 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Even if the monitoring is on the net it could be bad as that could be hacked.

“Hey Harry, the pressure is really low on #2 - turn the valve up to maximum.”


35 posted on 12/20/2014 5:18:48 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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