[Baynative]

According to Guliani, Gruber was trying to talk his way around the dumb statements that have been shown on film and said that the $5 Million paid to him was actually grant money paid to MIT and other institutions and he only got part of it for his work.

Guliani then referred to statements he made about disguising the fact that the ACA was tax program and said he (Gruber) had taken federal money to produce a false presentation of the healthcare bill using "tortured language" to fool the General Accounting Office. Fraud, embezzlement and MIT as a willing partner... this would have a chance of becoming interesting if a republican with some courage were to emerge.

[RandallFlagg]

Wouldn’t that also fall under RICO?

[EVO X]

Guliani then referred to statements he made about disguising the fact that the ACA was tax program and said he (Gruber) had taken federal money to produce a false presentation of the healthcare bill using "tortured language" to fool the General Accounting Office. Fraud, embezzlement and MIT as a willing partner.

I watched a bit of the hearing, but not all of it. I got the impression that he is weasel. He apologized because he got caught. He tried to downgrade his involvement with ACA as just being a number cruncher making unfortunate comments outside of his pay grade.

He is not some backroom genius that can't bend over and tie his sneakers. He was actively pushing this crap...