[EVO X]

Guliani then referred to statements he made about disguising the fact that the ACA was tax program and said he (Gruber) had taken federal money to produce a false presentation of the healthcare bill using "tortured language" to fool the General Accounting Office. Fraud, embezzlement and MIT as a willing partner.

I watched a bit of the hearing, but not all of it. I got the impression that he is weasel. He apologized because he got caught. He tried to downgrade his involvement with ACA as just being a number cruncher making unfortunate comments outside of his pay grade.

He is not some backroom genius that can't bend over and tie his sneakers. He was actively pushing this crap...

[Baynative]

He was put on the spot by Issa for not filing out his income statements as required. When those get completed and become part of the questioning things may get serious.