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EXCLUSIVE: Man who filmed Eric Garner in chokehold says grand jury was rigged
New York Daily News ^ | December 4, 2014 | Erik Badia,Corky Siemaszko

Posted on 12/04/2014 10:03:48 AM PST by Biggirl

The Staten Island man who took the cellphone video seen around the world of a cop killing Eric Garner with a chokehold said Thursday the grand jury was rigged. “I think they already had their minds made up,” Ramsey Orta told the Daily News a day after the panel voted not to charge Officer Daniel Pantaleo with a crime.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Missouri; US: New York
KEYWORDS: danielpantaleo; ericgarner; garner; homicide; newyorkcity; nypd; orta; statenisland
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To: Biggirl

Has any info on how the jury was charged been released? Anything on what they were allowed to consider?


21 posted on 12/04/2014 10:14:05 AM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: Biggirl
Is this guy and immigrant or a product of our great public school system?

People was on their phones...
Donovan wasn’t even asking no questions about the police
The rest of them, they weren't even worried about nothing.
If you knew he was selling cigarettes why didn't you tell him the cops was there?
Well miss, we know the cops is there every day.
First of all, you ain't gonna tell me how to talk...

22 posted on 12/04/2014 10:14:27 AM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Biggirl

Well, that settles it. Guy says it’ s rigged, it’s rigged. Right? End of story!

What rubbish.


23 posted on 12/04/2014 10:15:10 AM PST by smoothsailing (Mel Kaminsky for President!!!)
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To: LeonardFMason

” Did I hear this guy was arrested nearly 30 times prior to this incident?”

Correct


24 posted on 12/04/2014 10:15:15 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: hal ogen

At the link there is a pic of him being escorted into a courthouse in cuffs to face weapons charges.


25 posted on 12/04/2014 10:16:05 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: goldstategop
Don’t blame the cops.

If you don’t like the law on cigarette smuggling, get it changed or repealed.

But that doesn’t give one standing to break the law.

It also should not mean a death sentence.

26 posted on 12/04/2014 10:18:36 AM PST by gdani (Ebola has exposed the U.S. as fearful, easy-to-manipulate weaklings)
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To: goldstategop

I agree, I’m more than a little embarrassed at how many FReepers are dumb enough to think that police make laws or that they get off on screwing with these pointless arrests.

While I personally think Garner’s was a wrongful death, the blame lies at the feet of those who make stupid laws. Its also important to note that these cops weren’t just out trolling to harass people. They had been called.

Its all too typical. If police don’t do anything, people throw a fit. If they do something, the same people throw a fit.


27 posted on 12/04/2014 10:21:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: cld51860

You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.

Rahm Emanuel


28 posted on 12/04/2014 10:28:49 AM PST by McGruff (If you like your current Democracy you can keep it. Period.)
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To: goldstategop

So selling illegal cigarettes is should be a capital crime?
He should have been given a citation and been told when he needs to be in court. Every one of those cops in that video should be in jail right now. Many of you don’t seem to get it. It doesn’t matter what color your skin is, cops look at all non cops the same. We are the enemy in their eyes. This attitude needs to stop yesterday. Gardner didn’t do anything to give the NYPD the right to kill him. PERIOD!


29 posted on 12/04/2014 10:29:32 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: stockpirate

You’re saying NYC is effectively Nazi Germany?

Disagree with your comparison. We live in a civil society; certainly imperfect but without respect for the law it’s anarchy.


30 posted on 12/04/2014 10:34:50 AM PST by Made In The USA (Yes Ma'am, I said I'd like three sides of bacon with my eggs. and bacon.)
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To: sean327
He should have been given a citation and been told when he needs to be in court.

Agree, however...he would have ignored the court summons. Then a warrant would be issued. Then the cops would have attempted to arrest him for the warrant. And he would have resisted. Either way, there was going to be a confrontation with this guy.

31 posted on 12/04/2014 10:36:10 AM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: All

From the footage I’ve been seeing, Garner was saying “I can’t breathe” after the choke hold was released. The officer (wearing a green T-shirt) who had him in the choke hold, was actually on his back with his knee on the back of his head when Garner was saying “I can’t breath.” I don’t think Garner died from that choke hold because it was not used for a matter of seconds.


32 posted on 12/04/2014 10:37:04 AM PST by PizzaTheHut
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To: Made In The USA

Yes, but those who are charged with upholding the laws don’t have the right to just kill you. Police in this country need to change their bullshiite mindset. The people are not the enemy, and they are not warriors.


33 posted on 12/04/2014 10:38:05 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: PizzaTheHut

Correction to my last post - I don’t think Garner died from that choke hold because it was ONLY used for a matter of seconds.


34 posted on 12/04/2014 10:39:08 AM PST by PizzaTheHut
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To: Biggirl

If anything, the video supports the police. And I think this guy is like Michael Brown’s friend, Dorian, a criminal.


35 posted on 12/04/2014 10:39:35 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Biggirl
“I think they already had their minds made up,”

I think he already had his mind made up and doesn't know squat.


36 posted on 12/04/2014 10:40:29 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Veggie Todd

He did not resist or threaten the officers in any way. I’ve watched the same video you have and cannot come to the conclusion that he resisted. The man did not deserve to die on the sidewalk like that.


37 posted on 12/04/2014 10:42:05 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: All
An uniformed question. How long was it after this chokehold incident did he die?
38 posted on 12/04/2014 10:44:40 AM PST by McGruff (If you like your current Democracy you can keep it. Period.)
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To: Moonman62

How in the hell does the video support the police? There is no way any reasonable person can say the cops were justified in any use of force during this mess.


39 posted on 12/04/2014 10:50:17 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Gaffer

There is a blatant conflict of interest. The city tax on cigarettes is used to fund the salaries of the police that enforce it.

Hmm.


40 posted on 12/04/2014 10:51:18 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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