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To: FR_addict

Something, very important, in the GJ testimony allowed the officer to not be charged. We’re not privy to it yet.


4 posted on 12/04/2014 7:46:22 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bushbacker1
Was it a head lock or choke hold? I can't tell. Evidently, one is allowed and is taught to police and one is not.

When I first saw the video, it wasn't the take-down that bothered me, but the fact that none of the police officers tried to help him when he was on the ground waiting for the emergency vehicle. I don't know how much of the video was cut out. Did the police sergeant try to assist? Did anyone try to assist? Was he breathing? If he was then the take-down itself may not have been what killed him.

10 posted on 12/04/2014 7:53:45 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Bushbacker1
"Something, very important, in the GJ testimony allowed the officer to not be charged. We’re not privy to it yet."

If you haven't yet read the Breitbart article yesterday, it's a definite must. It fully explains the difference between a choke hold and suppression hold the officer used, and which is sanctioned and taught by the NYPD. Preliminary autopsy showed no injury to Garner's windpipe or neck bones. "According to Garner’s friends, he 'had several health issues: diabetes, sleep apnea, and asthma so severe that he had to quit his job as a horticulturist for the city’s parks department. He wheezed when he talked and could not walk a block without resting, they said.'”

He was selling cigarettes, which he has done for a while I guess. Makes me wonder if with all his health issues, he was also a smoker, which would limit his breathing capabilities. Are we going to require our police officers to ask everyone refusing to comply with a lawful order, what their health problems are before force is used to bring them to compliance?

Here's the link to the article:

The Actual Facts of the Garner Case

36 posted on 12/04/2014 9:28:50 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Bushbacker1
Something, very important, in the GJ testimony allowed the officer to not be charged. We’re not privy to it yet.

Either that or the GJ was brain-dead... for now I'm going with brain-dead..

54 posted on 12/04/2014 10:31:13 AM PST by GOPJ (Stephanopoulos's a snake in the grass and a dem operative. Wilson should never have trusted him.)
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To: Bushbacker1

Something, very important, in the GJ testimony allowed the officer to not be charged. We’re not privy to it yet.

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Only a limited amount of information has been released and that took an order from a judge at the request of the prosecutor.

Pantaleo’s lawyer has released some information. Pantaleo testified and answered 20 questions from the jury and explained what happened in the videos. He did not use a chokehold. As he pulled Garner down using an approved technique, Garner pushed him up against a glass window that buckled. He feared going through the window and that’s when his left arm went around Garner’s neck. Regardless, the coroner still didn’t find evidence of choking such as a damaged trachea or fractured hyoid bone. If anything, Pantaleo was careful not to apply pressure to the windpipe. The palm of his left hand was facing outward, and contact was made to the side of Garner’s neck by the top of his left forearm. Garner appeared to be conscious as he went down. He supported himself with his arms.


83 posted on 12/05/2014 8:13:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Bushbacker1

Well, among other things Garner did not did from the takedown. He died later in the ambulance when he had a heart attack.


111 posted on 12/08/2014 8:34:11 PM PST by kaehurowing
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