Boner: "Did you just really say that about me?!!!"
Posted on 12/04/2014 4:14:58 AM PST by servo1969
Press reports say House Speaker John Boehner will ask Rep. Nancy Pelosi to help him overcome “snowballing” GOP opposition to the GOP leadership’s draft 2015 government budget bill.
Boehner’s draft bill funds the entire government for 2015, but makes merely token efforts to stop President Barack Obama’s agencies from implementing his unpopular amnesty, according to rank-and-file GOP legislators.
That claim of snowballing opposition was boosted early Wednesday evening, when aides to House Speaker John Boehner said they would change their funding bill to reduce the number of months of funding for Obama’s immigration agencies.
Late Wednesday night, the Washington Post reported that top Democrat Rep. Steny Hoyer also said Boehner’s aides had asked him to deliver Democratic votes to ensure passage of the amnesty-funding bill. GOP Rep. Mark Amodei made the same claim to National Review.
Boehner is looking for Democratic help because many of the 234 GOP legislators don’t want to fund the business-backed amnesty. Boehner needs at least 218 votes to pass the bill.
Obama’s amnesty, announced Nov. 21, has blocked the enforcement of immigration law for 12 million illegals, will grant work-permits to five million illegals, will provide government benefits to millions of illegals and will make it cheaper for companies to hire illegals instead of Americans.
“Right now, it is just snowballing opposition,” Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp told The Daily Caller Wednesday.
“Twenty-four hours ago, there was little [opposition] there… [but] more and and more folks are learning the issue and asking ‘Why would I be voting for this?’” he said, citing quiet conversations he’s had with GOP members. “It is hard to put numbers on it,” he said, adding that legislators are responding to their voters’ phone calls and complaints.
In the run-up to the November election, Gallup reported the highest priority for GOP voters was not Obamacare or the economy, but stopping Obama’s planned amnesty.
Boehner promised to fight the amnesty “tooth and nail,” and on Dec. 1 he proposed a 2015 budget plan he said would block Obama’s amnesty.
His 2015 budget plan would provide only four months of funding to the agency that will implement the amnesty. Once the funding runs out, the new GOP majorities in the Senate and House can block the amnesty, Boehner’s deputies promised.
Boehner’s allies say that plan will avoid the “government shutdown” political defeat expected once Obama blocks the spending plan with the anti-amnesty language. The budget plan has to be drafted and approved by Dec. 12.
GOP members say Boehner’s plan can’t actually stop the immigration agency from printing work permits and Social Security cards for millions of illegal immigrants. The agency, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, can accomplish Obama’s amnesty even without federal funding because it is mostly funded with fees paid by would-be immigrants.
So even if Congress appropriates no money to fund the agency after March 2015, it can use the fees to keep handing out work permits to illegals.
Boehner and GOP leaders can’t stop the agency’s operations once they pass the 2015 budget in December. That’s because they would need to pass a new law through the Senate in 2015, where there will be enough Democrats to block any GOP bill, and more than enough Democrats to sustain the presidential veto of any anti-amnesty bill that does get passed.
The only way to stop the amnesty, say GOP members, including Huelskamp, is to add “rider” language to Boehner’s pending appropriations bill.
The rider language would bar the immigration agency from spending any funds to implement the amnesty for the next 12 months.
The so-called “rider” language is similar to many other funding limitations inserted into the annual appropriations bills — except that Obama’s aides are suggesting he will shut down the government unless the GOP funds his amnesty.
The amnesty will cost a lot of money to implement. On Dec. 3, Sen. Jeff Sessions announced that the administration has secretly made preparations to hire 1,000 people to rapidly distribute work permits to illegals in Virginia.
“This action will mean that American workers, their sons, their daughters, their parents, will now have to compete directly for jobs, wages, and benefits with millions of illegal immigrants,” Sessions said.
Many GOP legislators will oppose Boehner’s budget plan, but only when they’re pressured by voters, said Iowa Rep. Steve King.
“These people in here, when you realize how many don’t come out publicly [against the amnesty] because they may hope to be a committee chair one day, maybe looking for a certain appointment, … they want to stay a little more low-key,” and those members will stay quiet until they’re pressured by voters, King said.
The group of winnable legislators could be up to 50, which is enough to deny Boehner a House majority. That would force him to rewrite his funding bill or rely on Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi to provide enough legislators to pass the bill.
Many conservative or immigration-reform groups are trying to rally GOP legislators against the bill. ”The funding bill is really the only angle” to stop the amnesty, said Michael Steele, the former head of the Republican National Committee.
Boehner “has to put something in place something that aligns the caucus to get the votes he needs… They should have done better,” he told radio host Laura Ingraham.
Boehner’s team is keeping its deliberations secret from GOP legislators, say Huelskamp and other GOP legislators. But his chief whip, Rep. Steve Scalise, has long worked with conservative GOP legislators, King said. “He’s a pretty good guy, you know,” King said.
During the border security issue in July, Scalise worked with King and other GOP leaders to pass a bill that denied funding for an extension of Obama’s 2012 amnesty for young illegal immigrants.
Boehner and team tried to push through a much weaker bill, but many GOP legislators joined King’s group once their constituents called. Eventually, nearly every GOP legislator — including Boehner — voted for the bill developed by Scalise and King.
“That was a similar scenario to this one… some of the [legislators] had been whipped on this [by Boehner’s team], but they went back and told leadership ‘No,’” because of voter pressure, King said.
“If you look at what I thought we had [open] support then, versus what materialized for support after people made the phone calls to their members of Congress, after they got up to speed on the issue… members begin to learn enough, they get educated and they come around,” he said.
That House defunding bill died when Senate Democrats blocked it in a late-night vote.
However, the bill has put nearly all GOP legislators on the record against Obama’s amnesty actions.
In the Senate, four endangered Democratic Senators voted to support a similar defunding bill when Sessions used complex Senate rules to bypass Democratic opposition to any vote.
The Democratic splits shows the GOP may win an amnesty and government shutdown battle with Obama.
The amnesty could become political poison for the Democratic Party because it grants work permits to 4 million low-wage illegal immigrants during a period when Americans’ wages have stayed flat for 15 years, when roughly 20 million Americans are unemployed or have given up looking for work and when more taxpayer funds are being transferred from retirees to unskilled poor migrant families.
Polls show strong opposition to increased immigration and to Obama’s immigration policies. But public opposition to the amnesty is muted by social pressure to support for the tradition of immigration, and by Americans’ reluctance to been seen as critical of migrants.
Private opposition spikes up to nearly 90 percent whenever the pollsters focus on the fairness of forcing Americans to compete against migrants for jobs in America.
The power of that pushback was underlined Nov. 4, when voters in deep-blue Oregon elected a Democratic governor, a Democratic Senator, added Democrats to the state House and state Senate and also voted two-to-one to withdraw drivers’ licenses from illegal immigrants.
From the article: “Boehner’s draft bill funds the entire government for 2015, . . “
Not only is Boehner caving on amnesty, he is going to agree to another spending bill which grows baseline spending and gives the president discretionary authority to spend billions of dollars of tax money for an entire year. No effort to reduce spending. No effort to end grants to the organizations employing the community organizers currently inciting riots in Ferguson. No effort to defund Obamacare.
I’m sure if you call your Republican representative today you’ll be told we need to get this issue behind us because the Senate isn’t yet Republican but next year when we have the majority in both houses we’ll be tough. Next year when it comes to the budgeting process and you call to complain that nothing is being done to slow spending you’ll be told we can’t have an ugly spending fight this year because 2016 is an election year and we don’t want to mess up our chances of winning the White House.
It is true that voting Republican each election cycle is much like an abused spouse allowing the abuser move back in because this time it will be different.
The sellout is us.
Oh isn't that interesting. Obama's illegal illegal immigrant action is paid for by fees of legal immigrant wanna be's. I wonder how many legal immigrants know this?
This essentially makes the executive branch a large coyote service, bringing criminaliens across the border for a fee.
What a weakling. What a quisling. What a weasel.
He’s a blackmailed democrat.
I realize now there is no point or benefit in blaming RINOs, though it will be a hard habit to break. It’s really like blaming cockroaches for crawling in garbage or flies eating crap. It’s just what they do and we should accept the reality of what ‘is’ rather than try teaching them reason and civilized behavior.
The people to blame are the people responsible for electing RINOs to begin with when they knew full well that they were empowering evil. Lesser or otherwise. And there are plenty of them right here on FR to start with. Because NO ONE on FR can claim ignorance of what RINOs are.
The extremist rightwing Tea Party is going to shut down the government. They have enough votes in the House to leverage Boehner/GOPe and the only way for Boehner/GOPe to avoid this is to abandon the Hastert Rule and depend on Pelosi/dems to provide the majority of votes necessary.
The only point I was bringing up was that it was not a given that Pelosi/dems would save Boehner's ass.
Boner: "Did you just really say that about me?!!!"
See - the GOP is working under very difficult/hostile environment - case in point -
if they don’t fund obola’s amnesty, obola will ‘shut down’ the gov and blame GOP for doing so, and the lamestream media will brain-wash the obola voters/admirers (especially the Latinos voters) to blame everything entirely on the GOP;
if they do fund obola’s amnesty, their base (and/or the majority who urge them to stop obola’s amnesty) will be screaming for their heads.
You smart people out there, please tell the GOP what they can do to stop obola’s amnesty without being blamed and butchered by the lamestream and the obola admirers.
Is it too late to vote this clown out as speaker?
The Demwits have Boner so blackmailed.
>> You smart people out there, please tell the GOP what they can do to stop obola’s amnesty without being blamed and butchered by the lamestream and the obola admirers.
Step 1. Get off your knees.
Boehner must have so many embarrassing pictures, and other proof of dirt, in Dems’ hands that he’s the Dem’s bitch for as long as they find use for him.
The Speaker allies with the Minority Leader to oppose his own party... unbelievable!
Boehner has destroyed the Republicans, and the idiots reelect him... unforgivable.
"Obama is my beloved King. He made me,
my family, my Staff and their families, EXEMPT."
Here's what you get when you support Boehner:
Boehner frolicking in the Hamptons with Obamanista/Leftist Joy Behar
Behar quotes Boehner as saying ‘I am Obama’s best friend.'
If everything they do which doesn’t support Obola’s agenda gets them skewered by the media, and they make that their priority, what use are they? Because that will always be the case.
That snowballing opposition needs to morph into snowballing opposition against Boner. Throw his ass out.
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