"Also, as they get the guy down there are no arms anywhere near his neck."
Posted on 12/03/2014 8:58:20 PM PST by TigerClaws
Charles Krauthammer said Wednesday on "Special Report with Bret Baier" that a grand jury's decision not to indict a New York City police officer in the death of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man who died in July after the officer placed him in a chokehold, is "totally incomprehensible."
"It looks like they at least might have indicted him on something like involuntary manslaughter at the very least," Krauthammer, a syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor, said. "The guy was unarmed, and the crime was petty as they come. He was selling loose cigarettes, which in and of itself is almost absurd that somebody has to die over that."
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He is a psychiatrist, not a psychologist. Psychiatrists are medical doctors who undergo medical training and then specialty training in diseases of the mind.
Good thing Obama’s fixed race relations, huh?
So what great insight does he have that every other observer would have? The guy had a heart attack, so what?
When Eric Garner repeatedly stated, “I can’t breathe”, he was only able to do so because air was, in fact, moving through his trachea into his lungs. His breathing capacity may have been diminished but he was able to breathe at least up until he stopped talking. He died from the heart attack that he was having. One of the hallmark signs of a heart attack is difficulty breathing.
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But as all restraint training teaches, although the restrained person can speak, the airflow can be so diminished that the person is still suffocating, which leads to arrhythmias and death.
But as all restraint training teaches, although the restrained person can speak, the airflow can be so diminished that the person is still suffocating, which leads to arrhythmias and death.
A precipitant to his death would have been the chokehold.
It’s not just FReepers. There are a lot of people who, after seeing how justified actions like those of George Zimmerman and Ofcr Wilson were cravenly demonized and exploited for political/ideological purposes, will rightfully conclude that the same thing that happened here and will push back on the exploitative political spinning.
It’s a classic little boy who cried wolf situation. The Left has made some really poor choices recently in the carts they tie their horses to. Had the solid, scientific forensics of the Martin and Brown deaths Bern respected, the Left COULD actually make a good case in support of their points here, with Gardner. But having blown their credibility backing the wrong cases, why should anyone really care or listen to them this time around?
30 previous arrests? 18 of them from same precinct?
That is a possibility and there is better chance that Kraut is trying to be PC. Don’t resist arrest, pretty easy concept.
Pray America is waking up
Nope,he's a graduate of Harvard Medical School and at least was,at one time,a licensed physician....and very possibly still is.I know about his attendance at Harvard because I worked in a Harvard teaching hospital while he was attending and interacted with him on a number of occasions.Check it out.
He went into *psychiatry*,a *medical* specialty,very probably because his serious disability prevented him from entering any other specialty.
I agree with you.
Regards,
“How can anyone deem what was reckless”
Well, they used at least 2 maneuvers that were explicitly banned by the department’s use of force policy, for starters. Maneuvers that were specifically banned because they were too deemed to lethal to use to restrain people.
They indicate it to me, and you are not going to convince me otherwise.
He should have been issued a citation.
When he was in distress, an ambulance should have been called immediately.
The medical examiner declared this a homicide, but you’re arguing whether something is “really” a choke hold.
"Also, as they get the guy down there are no arms anywhere near his neck."
He had been arrested eight times before. He was well known to them.
Oh I’m sorry the forearm underneath the chin affixed to the neck while the suspect says I can’t breathe just possibly can’t be asphyxiation...no way possible. The cops committed homicide plain and simple. To justify it completely discredits us.
The NYPD is a very large agency. At any given time they have a number of LEOs on duty that can be called to a special project.
Agreed, this is a clear cut case of Police Abusing their power, and the fact that this cop did not get indicted for anything exposes completely a failing in the criminal justice system.
The race hustlers and poverty pimps trying to turn Furgeson into something it wasn’t, now has people idiotically knee jerking to defend any cops action... and in this case there is no defense whatsoever that this cop faces no charges, other than corruption.
The people trying to defend the cop in this particular case, are just flat out morons.
It is not asphyxiation.
If he said “I can’t breathe”, then he had air flow.
Speech needs air to happen.
The cops DID NOT cut off his air and kill him.
And was this lazy fat ass just trying to survive? Woman is now dead because he wouldn’t take a few more steps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2L85M287gk
I am sorry, but this case here, is fully on video, this man was not doing anything threatening to anyone, he was arguing his case, yes, but his resisting was all of “don’t touch me” and pulling his arm away, to which a cop jumped on his back and choked him out, against NYPD policy and those actions caused the mans death. I am all for cops keeping the peace, and yes I don’t think the cop in question had any intention of killing the suspect, but the fact he violated policy, escalated what to that point was a completely no violent situation, and killed a man and yes, the death was ruled HOMOCIDE which means he killed him, and doesn’t get indicted for any criminal charges at all as a result? That’s not doing what you need to survive.
This cop screwed up, and screwed up royal.. any argument otherwise is not one that can be defended.
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