Posted on 12/03/2014 11:28:41 AM PST by dead
A New York City grand jury has declined to indict an NYPD officer in the chokehold case of Eric Garner, the unarmed man who died while being arrested on Staten Island earlier this year.
In opting not to indict, the panel determined there was not probable cause that a crime was committed by NYPD officer Daniel Pantaleo, who was seen on a widely watched amateur video showing him wrapping his arm around Garner's neck as Garner yelled, "I can't breathe!" during the summer altercation.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnewyork.com ...
I’m sorry you got ruffed up a good cause but that’s crazy
Thank you for posting that. I hope more people will read this.
To me, one of the worst things is that these (dumb) kids were being used for the political objectives of their principal and teachers. I say dumb, because any teenager can be maniplated or intimidated into doing just about anything. And the poor kids certainly didn’t know something like this would happen.
If I were a parent and was not ASKED by the TEACHER, there would an immediate letter. Perhaps Andy though he might get on TV tonight and be one of the new grievance march stars, except it went wrong and could gone far worse if some of those had been hit while they were supposed to be in SCHOOL.
I was also at a peaceful pro-life event (in DC) where people were seriously maltreated by the cops simply for being there..probably at the express orders of Bill Clinton and the Democrat leaders. So I don’t automatically support the police - but they only do what they are told to do.
Eric Garner was just a multiple petty offender (although I believe he had a drug sales conviction in his background) who flipped out when he was being cited. The reason he was being cited was that the other BLACK residents of the neighborhood had asked NYPD to crack down on all the petty illegal activity on their street, because it was attracting thugs, dumb pre-thug minors, hookers, and the usual crowd and making it unsafe for reaidents.
“Escalating widespread distrust of government at all levels, causing massive cracks in our foundation.
Sums up what I too feel, el perfecto”
While the American D/R sheep are conditioned to argue about relatively insignificant minor stuff, our nation is being corrupted and lost by the political elites and their benefactors, from the outside in and inside out.
Our most significant problem in America is not politics, but political corruption and it runs from bottom to top.
Some parent should sure get out there and protest this. Since when can the principal and staff just go out use their students...without their parents’ permission or even knowledge - for their political project?
If I were a relative of one of the officers, or a parent of one of the students who was coerced by official and mob pressure to participate in this, I’d sue. That’s the only way to stop principals and teachers from politicizing their students for their own causes.
My question with the entire process is what were the charges presented to the grand jury?
If it was conspiracy to commit murder then they made the correct call.
Or where do the riots begin in Brooklyn or Queens? What a way for white people to have to live through!
yep, supposed to be just campus thing (which i still think their rears should be in school learning) BUT taking these kids out on the street and the principal allowed it and look at the bad turn it became. They belonged in school and let the adults get to where they had to go.
If this was just me protesting and I walked in a street blocking traffic, if I wasn’t killed in an accident first, I’d be arrested.
From another article, I read that it was the NYPD police commissioner himself who implemented a new policy in aggressively pursuing illicit sellers of loose cigarettes, ordered by Mayor Bloomberg’s strict anti-tobacco initiative. The very next day, Eric Garner was killed by police.
I hope that the fallout from this costs New York City more money than they’d ever have collected from tobacco sales revenue. What a bright idea that was!
Call me a cynic, but I’ll say I’m skeptical that this incident will change a single thing in NYC. They’re just too far gone to turn back now. The people who live there draw precisely the wrong conclusions about the source of who’s screwing them over, all to the benefit of their overlords they keep electing.
More laws and regulation means more cops. More cops means more of these tragic occurrences. More tragic occurrences mean more new outrage and emotionally-contrived civic laws. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Give it enough time and their city turns into a violent tax-encumbered police state. I say let the dumb bastards stew in their own juices and serve as a lesson to us all. All they can do is hope not to be the poor unfortunate bastard who attracts the attention of the civic morality enforcers known as the police. If they are, I sure hope they’re in prime physical condition.
By choice, I live near the wilderness on the far side of a remote part of a small town in one of America’s least populated and geographically largest states. It’s rare to encounter a law enforcement officer here, which is good because I believe there’s very scarce problematic situations where the presence of a law enforcement officer can actually help. It is absolutely lovely here.
Good Question, I hope considering the cavalier letter to the parents and the blurb at the bottom about the officers and the principal’s own hand in managing the “traffic”, he, Andy deserves some hard hitting question from the parents. (1) as to why the parents weren’t informed (2) what if the kids did not want to walk out and (3) was it to be on campus. I hope the parents give him crap.
Are you actually suggesting this government can be trusted?
At all levels. You bet...Even the cup droolers are catching on.
I agree with you so maybe I can take some of the flames aimed at you.
When there are that many cops simply point out to the man that he’s going to be arrested and he can do it the hard way or the easy way. But truthfully, I think it was over reacting for selling loose cigarettes.
Whether or not it was a choke hold or not is irrelevant. The man was saying “I can’t breath.” Hell, when he can’t breath, turn him loose.
The same with the kid shot in Ohio. It seems the cop that killed the kid had left another police department because he was considered unstable. Cleveland should pay out the nose for this.
You may not live in a big city, but when a block gets taken over by people doing petty illegal activities, it soon becomes unliveable for regular people, and it was actually the normal folk (who are mostly black, in this neighborhood) who had been asking for enforcement. Selling loosies, that is, individual cigarettes, attracts nothing but hoodie teenagers and bums, along with the people who provide them services: hookers, drug sellers, etc.
Garner had several other citations for this, as well as other arrests, so I don’t know why he freaked out on this particular occasion. As soon as they realized that he had a real problem and wasn’t just doing the usual complaining, they tried to help him, and the ambulance was there in 4 minutes.
He’d been arrested for the same thing 8 times! Maybe he should’ve given up this illegal activity. Plus the police were called by neighboring businesses who reported Garner selling loose untaxed cigarettes, which apparently is a crime in NY.
It’s just my opinion that after several “I can’t breath” pleas the hold should have been loosened. I don’t think he couldn’t breath because of the choke hold or whatever you want to call it. He couldn’t breath because he was having a heart attack. The cops should have backed off as soon as he started complaining and gasping for breath. Chances are he would have died anyway from the heart attack. But the cops wouldn’t have looked near as bad and it wouldn’t have looked like they contributed. Obviously, the grand jury came to that conclusion. The public never will.
On top of that, there are way too many deaths occurring at the hands of cops. Some are unavoidable. Some are for petty crimes. And some are just trigger happy cops. Two of the three needs to stop.
OMG, you’re kidding?
I bet he made dozens of dollars pushing tobacco...
I’m going to complain to the suits in government who ripoff the American people trillions in tax dollars. They wear suits and ties and look good too!
We must stop this violent widespread criminal activity.
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