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T Boone Pickens tells Cramer: $100 oil will return
CNBC ^ | 12/3/2014 | Abigail Stevenson

Posted on 12/03/2014 7:50:28 AM PST by thackney

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To: matthew fuller
Gas below $2.00 by Jan 1, 2015 in central TX.

Average price? Or just one station?

21 posted on 12/03/2014 8:16:28 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with pray<br>er.)
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To: wolfman23601
Not interested in day to day spikes and valleys.

Agreed, but that link is for future prices going out for years. It is opinion of course, but opinion of those that risk their money in oil.

22 posted on 12/03/2014 8:17:45 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with pray<br>er.)
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To: thackney

The lowest in my area.


23 posted on 12/03/2014 8:19:12 AM PST by matthew fuller (Barak Hussein Obama (Benghazi Barry)- the first step into a thousand years of darkness.)
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To: thackney

Is he invested in GTL?................


24 posted on 12/03/2014 8:19:40 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t know of GTL investment. His company is Clean Energy Fuels selling LNG and CNG. Their big push was to get ~150 stations on the National Highway System.

https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/


25 posted on 12/03/2014 8:21:41 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with pray<br>er.)
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To: Autonomous User

” TBone and Cramer. The Obama and Holder of Oil.”

LOL!

And buy gold at 1700......it is going to 2500 in 2013 : )


26 posted on 12/03/2014 8:22:59 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: thackney

Nobody in banking risks money. They buy commodities to offset another bet. It is like a bookie that bets on the Giants because to many of their clients bet on the Redskins, that way, either way, they get their fee. That is the basis of the derivative scheme. Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan don’t really care what oil does despite having money in it. Whether it goes up or down, they win. Wall Street is now run by mathematicians.


27 posted on 12/03/2014 8:24:18 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: matthew fuller

Hard to take that bet on what single station might do on a single day.

I would take it for say the gasbuddy.com color maps for any area in Texas, zoomed out to where it still shows colors for areas versus individual stations. No color categories $2 or lower.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx


28 posted on 12/03/2014 8:26:42 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with pray<br>er.)
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To: wolfman23601

Same pricing system is used by refineries managers that actually need oil delivered every week.


29 posted on 12/03/2014 8:27:52 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with pray<br>er.)
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To: wolfman23601
Oil actually has much further to fall to reach equilibrium.

In the short term I agree. But the price of oil is dropping because supply is up (thanks to U.S. production) and demand is down (thanks to the worldwide Obamarecession).

Low priced oil will go a long way towards increasing the worldwide economy. At the same time, U.S. production will drop or at the very least level off, because most of the recent boom in U.S. production is not profitable below $80 a barrel.

That will cause oil to slowly increase in price until a new equilibrium is reached. My guess is that prices will again level off at around $100 a barrel, in about a year or a year and a half.

So I think Pickens timeline is accurate, but I don't think that the Saudis have any incentive to cut their share of the oil production market to get there.

30 posted on 12/03/2014 8:27:56 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Real Cynic No More

BUMP! You have explained it perfectly.


31 posted on 12/03/2014 8:30:27 AM PST by upchuck (Ferguson: Put your hands down and got to work!)
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To: matthew fuller
I restate my prediction: Gas below $2.00 by Jan 1, 2015 in central TX.

I think you are right, but I don't think it will stay below $2.00 for long.

Anyone else remember when gasoline plunged down below $1.00 a gallon in the late 1990s?

32 posted on 12/03/2014 8:30:59 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: thackney

Refineries have been shutting down in droves because the prices are too high and they can’t make a profit to the end user.


33 posted on 12/03/2014 8:35:13 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: thackney
Well, the Saudis brought about the drop in oil this week be not allowing for a production cutback. Falling prices hurt Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and makes fracking unprofitable.

The Saudis made the move to "punish" some competitors. What is some of these people don't like to be pushed, or put into their place. Could cause some economic problems back home - some riots, etc. And for what - the Saudis?

The Saudis have a lot of money, but no military. No protection. Having money is great - as well as people are willing to be bought off. But what if money is not enough? How difficult would it be to start a coup in the House of Saud? Or to set off a "dirty bomb" somewhere that will disrupt the flow of oil - either out of Saudi Arabia, or through the Straits of Hormuz.

34 posted on 12/03/2014 8:36:10 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Last time the economy was booming, oil prices were under $40 per barrel.


35 posted on 12/03/2014 8:36:58 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601
Refineries have been shutting down in droves because the prices are too high and they can’t make a profit to the end user.

We have shut down some of the less efficient ones but there has been more expansion of the other for a net increase in US refining capacity.

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36 posted on 12/03/2014 8:40:13 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with pray<br>er.)
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To: wolfman23601

Wishing will not make it so.


37 posted on 12/03/2014 8:41:02 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with pray<br>er.)
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To: molson209; thackney

TBP also is heavily into water rights, IIRC.


38 posted on 12/03/2014 8:54:11 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Doogle
"...and I predict, Odungo will return to bath houses"

Wadda mean return?, he just moved into higher ass ones.

39 posted on 12/03/2014 8:55:30 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: thackney
It would be easy to jibe at Pickens that oil will return to $100 with peak wind power in West Texas, but that would be too easy.

Actually he makes some good observations in the article. Saudi Arabia is tired of carry the water for the OPEC cheaters. They have the currrency reserves to ride this out and the others do not. Countries like IRAN and Venezuela need will have to cut oil production.

40 posted on 12/03/2014 8:55:53 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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