Posted on 12/01/2014 2:45:14 PM PST by Raymann
The shooting happened just after midnight, back on May 16, 2010.
A SWAT team had conducted a raid to search for a murder suspect. Weekly ended up being first through the door.
There was even a film crew on hand to film for a reality show about murder investigations. Weekley says that another SWAT member had thrown a flash-bang grenade, which temporarily blinded him. That’s when he fired the shot that killed Aiyana who was asleep on the couch in the front room of the house.
Doubling down on this claim, in court he actually testified that Aiyana’s grandmother had somehow “touched” his gun, which made him fire the shot. But he failed to explain how he could tell she had done this when he claimed he couldn’t see anything at the time.
The prosecution noted that even having his finger on the trigger of his submachine gun was improper. “He could have avoided injury if he had followed his training,” Assistant Wayne County Prosecutor Robert Moran explained.
“He didn’t, and as a result of him not following his training and not following the mandates of ordinary care, someone was killed.”
But ultimately, the arguments and reason didn’t win out.
(Excerpt) Read more at countercurrentnews.com ...
“Yeah, but this isn’t Iraq and Americans
are not enemy combatants.
Neither were the vast majority of the
people we encountered in our raids in
Iraq.”
I think dragnet2 is saying there is a difference between doing this in a war zone and their people, vs your own citizens in the US.
That's beside the point. The reality is, it wouldn't take much for someone to confuse an innocent person's address with a criminal's here.
Also, I'm not currently living there, but at the time, it was what I could afford, and it was where my job was. At least today, they have directional markers on the roads, but that doesn't always reduce the confusion, either.
There are areas of the city (yes, within the city limits) that are only accessible by poorly maintained, and often unmarked, dirt roads, and I've witnessed emergency vehicles attempting to locate a call and just driving back and forth with their lights/sirens going until they find the place. Even when the fire trucks can see the smoke rising, often the straightest path is not accessible to them. It's pretty much flat desert, and you can see for more than 100 miles to the west, 20 miles to the east (Sandia Mountains) and more than 50 miles to the north and south. The roads are just that bad.
Sometimes people don't have permanent addresses. They are the proverbial rolling stones.
Sometimes people even give fake addresses.
The fake I.D. business is a HUGE one. All the faking has a reason.
People with permanent addresses, REAL driver's licenses, real passports, etc., are the real deal who have NO need for fake anything.
It reminds me of women who wear make up, falsies, false eyelashes and such. What's wrong with their real face? And who do they think they're fooling?
Sooner or later people find out who you are, what you do and how you live. God always knows and eventually everyone else finds out too. I can look myself in the eye in the mirror and see a person who tries to follow the straight and narrow because it is GOD'S will and He is my Maker and knows what's best for me. Why wouldn't I do what He wants me to do?
It's very, very sad that your government, town and neighbors have to put up with that. I guess you have NO SAY in what happens in your town.
In some places you could SUE and, at least, make a huge stink, write letters to your district supervisors, state legislators, Congress, etc. I guess you can't do that because you know it would be useless. You might even have to deal with foul repercussions. It's a shame to have no faith in the "thin blue line." In MOST civilized towns the cops are respected by most folks.
Too bad you can't or don't want to LEAVE that burg and move to "greener pastures." No escape for you and your town's abysmally LOW standards.
There is the law, and there is justice. If the law failed me, I’d still get my justice.
Stop supporting cops that purposefully assassinate seven year old sleeping girls.
That’s the form of protest I can support wholeheartedly.
I’ve no idea why you’re single. From what I’ve seen of you you’re a good man and this post of yours is more of the same.
“The police officer is not the only one to blame, though. I just read more about this story, and sure enough, both the girl’s father and a man living at the house had been involved in a murder, and both had criminal pasts. If they hadn’t engaged in crime, a police force wouldn’t have had to come to the house for them. And this little girl probably would be alive.”
I blame the LEO for the girl’s death. He pulled the trigger, he alone owns it.
I blame the LEOs for being in the wrong apartment.
I blame the parents (and whoever else in the family) for LEOs needing to be in the bldg.
Another BIG concern is the LEOs lied.
(Gosh darn it - lost this on the cut and paste).
You seem to be confused.
Some opinions are okay, others not? What's up with that?
Unless someone "made a mistake."
All of which is irrelevant. The police kicked in the wrong door and killed a little girl. Apparently you’re okay with that.
That's really wordy rambling post. The bullshit which occurred in Iraq has nothing to do with what goes on here. It's an entire different animal. End of story.
BTW, I know how these teams work, their strategies, games and their routine screw-ups.
This is not rocket science or some complex issue.
My comments on this thread was in response to someone who suggested or implied these civilian swat teams were only being used for extremely dangerous individuals or suspected very dangerous individuals. That's bullsh*t and everyone knows it.
They're being used at increasing frequency where they have no GD business using them. This is no secret.
Government is totally out of control at all levels, even at the local levels.
Yeah, I know what he’s saying. And I’m saying that even in a war zone such actions can be executed with far less death and destruction than what SWAT teams here seem capable of. It comes down to training, expectations, and consequences. Too many SWAT teams are lacking all of the above.
Yes, as I said, the LEO is to blame. And, I’ll add, whoever decided that the SWAT team should burst into the house (instead of waiting for the suspect to leave the house) might be worthy of blame, too.
But the 25yo father and the 34yo boyfriend of a relative also are to blame. The 34yo had shot and killed a 17yo high school student for looking at him the wrong way. Aiyana’s 25yo father had given the 34yo the gun.
So, the father also was involved in the murder, and he was downstairs with his daughter, her mother, and her grandmother at the time of the raid.
Sorry - I just reread your post. You and I do agree - we’re saying the same thing.
It’s all good - no apology necessary.
I don’t. I wish I could. All too real, all too common. However, what is common is not the “police murder blacks indiscriminately” meme, but the “police murder by carelessness, callousness toward safety and life” and “police fake danger” truths.
And, of course, the police are perfect and never make mistakes. Like you?
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