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Eric Holder to Ferguson: Hey, we’re still working on the case
Hotair ^ | 11/25/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/25/2014 10:30:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind

This curious statement from the outgoing Attorney General came at a curious point in time. With the grand jury’s announcement in Ferguson pushed off until 8 pm local time — and then read out with a surprisingly lengthy preamble before getting to the point — the time for the Department of Justice to remind everyone that the federal civil-rights investigation had not yet finished should have been early enough in the day to calm the crowds before they began to riot. Instead, Holder issued his statement even later than Barack Obama did, when no one in Ferguson had the time or the inclination to read it:

“While the grand jury proceeding in St. Louis County has concluded, the Justice Department’s investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown remains ongoing. Though we have shared information with local prosecutors during the course of our investigation, the federal inquiry has been independent of the local one from the start, and remains so now. Even at this mature stage of the investigation, we have avoided prejudging any of the evidence. And although federal civil rights law imposes a high legal bar in these types of cases, we have resisted forming premature conclusions.

“Michael Brown’s death was a tragedy. This incident has sparked a national conversation about the need to ensure confidence between law enforcement and the communities they protect and serve. While constructive efforts are underway in Ferguson and communities nationwide, far more must be done to create enduring trust. The Department will continue to work with law enforcement, civil rights, faith and community leaders across the country to foster effective relationships between law enforcement and the communities they serve and to improve fairness in the criminal justice system overall. In addition, the Department continues to investigate allegations of unconstitutional policing patterns or practices by the Ferguson Police Department.

“Though there will be disagreement with the grand jury’s decision not to indict, this feeling should not lead to violence. Those who decide to participate in demonstrations should remember the wishes of Michael Brown’s parents, who have asked that remembrances of their son be conducted peacefully. It does not honor his memory to engage in violence or looting. In the coming days, it will likewise be important for local law enforcement authorities to respect the rights of demonstrators, and deescalate tensions by avoiding excessive displays—and uses—of force.”

Of course, neither Obama nor Holder knew the grand jury’s decision before the dragged out conclusion, no more than anyone else did except for the prosecutor and the Brown family, which was notified in the afternoon. Even a personal appearance from Obama and Holder wouldn’t have prevented what followed. People came to Ferguson itching to riot, and a riot would have ensued even if Wilson had been indicted. Demonstrators set more than two dozen fires in Ferguson, looted, assaulted bystanders, carjacked an elderly man and ran him over, and so on. Twenty-nine people were arrested, and this will likely continue for the next several days, announcements from Holder and Obama notwithstanding.

The legal scene, at least, shifts to Washington DC, while the DoJ investigates the Brown shooting. The Washington Post reports on both tracks being pursued by Holder — the potential case against Darren Wilson for civil-rights violations in the incident, and a broader look at policing practices in Ferguson. The first track doesn’t appear promising for agitators in Ferguson:

The department’s investigation of Wilson appears to be less likely to lead to federal charges. Investigators have said that the evidence at this point is not strong enough to bring criminal civil rights charges against Wilson.

As in similar cases, federal law sets a high bar for bringing civil rights charges against a police officer. Federal prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the officer intended to violate a victim’s constitutional rights.

The investigation of Wilson is being conducted under a federal statute that makes it a crime for a person with government authority, which is legally referred to as “acting under the color of law,” to “willfully” deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or federal law.

There have been leaks for the last couple of months about the unlikelihood of charges against Wilson. The incident began when Wilson told Brown and his friend to stop walking in the middle of the street and escalated rapidly from that point. That hardly suggests that there was an intent to deprive the decedent of his civil rights, and the grand jury’s evidence that the struggle began at the police car completely undercuts a civil-rights prosecution. The only real chance for indicting Wilson was with the grand jury, and as the prosecutor outlined last night, the evidence points to a completely different conclusion of self-defense. (The grand jury reports can be found here.)

The broader investigation into Ferguson’s policing may give demonstrators some hope of a win, though. According to McClatchy, evidence from the state of Missouri appears to give Justice a reason to press onward:

The other ongoing investigation is much broader, as a federal team probes whether there has been a pattern and practice of discriminatory behavior by the Ferguson Police Department. This investigation likely will take many more months but ultimately could lead to systemic reforms.

“There, I think the federal government is going to act,” Peter A. Joy, a professor at Washington University School of Law, predicted several weeks ago at a school panel discussion.

Attorney General Eric Holder initiated the broader Ferguson investigation in early September. Undertaken by the Civil Rights Division’s Special Litigation Section, the investigation is focusing on the Ferguson Police Department’s use of force; stops, searches and arrests; discriminatory policing; and treatment of detainees inside the Ferguson city jail.

The federal investigators, for instance, are digging into data concerning Ferguson traffic stops.

Last year, African-Americans drove 86 percent of the 5,384 cars stopped by Ferguson police officers, according to the state’s annual racial profiling report. African-American drivers were twice as likely to be searched and twice as likely to be arrested as white drivers, according to the report.

That probe may take years, though, so it won’t do much to defuse the situation in Ferguson over the next few days or weeks. The family will almost certainly pursue a wrongful-death lawsuit against the city and against Wilson personally, but that will also take years. It’s unclear what prospects that lawsuit will have, given the grand jury’s findings, but the city may want to settle the case quickly to get out from underneath the controversy.

At this point, one thing is clear: The mob in Ferguson isn’t interested in statements from Holder and Obama about the efforts still being made. They wanted an outcome, not justice. Promising them a different outcome from the DoJ and not delivering in the end may end up producing the same outcome we saw last night, and are likely to see the rest of the week.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: doj; ericholder; ferguson; michaelbrown; missouri
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To: caww

Couldn’t agree more.

I will say, that people are funny. Once they believe something, you could come at them with 1+1=2, and they would suspect it and think it was a right wing conspiracy.


21 posted on 11/25/2014 10:56:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yeah, he sure did. Man did he self-destruct.


22 posted on 11/25/2014 10:57:20 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eric Holder to Ferguson: Hey, we’re still stirring the pot!


23 posted on 11/25/2014 10:57:55 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: DoughtyOne

O J had a $25,000 per month pension that nobody(even Goldman) couldn’t attach. But that wasn’t good enough for this sociopath.


24 posted on 11/25/2014 11:01:52 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: DoughtyOne

...”Once they believe something, you could come at them with 1+1=2, and they would suspect it and think it was a right wing conspiracy”....

Not only believe it but put their “trust” in it...over and over again regardless of the facts, or evidence.

Sharpton and CrumB are coming across now that it was all about the “presentation” ....(Translation...”we didn’t get paid the big bucks we wanted if this had gone to trial...we could have racked up thousands by dragging this out for years!)


25 posted on 11/25/2014 11:06:39 AM PST by caww
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't understand. Holder has evidence that Darren Wilson is white and that Mike Brown was black. What more evidence does he need to bring charges?

Maybe Holder can tie up another loose thread, before he leaves office, by pinning the Fast and Furious scandal on Darren Wilson.

26 posted on 11/25/2014 11:08:00 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind



27 posted on 11/25/2014 11:08:17 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Of course, neither Obama nor Holder knew the grand jury’s decision before the dragged out conclusion, no more than anyone else did except for the prosecutor and the Brown family, which was notified in the afternoon.”

Does anyone really believe that? The decision was leaked hours earlier and everyone who read the internet knew about it. I guess Eric found out about it on the news, like his boss.


28 posted on 11/25/2014 11:08:28 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You know, some people can’t be happy with success. They find a need to destroy themselves. It beats anything I’ve ever seen, but look at all the celebrities that are unhappy.


29 posted on 11/25/2014 11:10:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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To: DoughtyOne

True enough.


30 posted on 11/25/2014 11:12:49 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: caww

Yeah, the presentation...

They’ll never let this rest.

One sad aspect of this, is that they tarnish other legitimate civil rights figures.

I believe Rosa Parks had a legitimate beef. When the elevate a guy like this Brown kid, they cause folks to rethink other highly visible people in the civil rights movement.

This is a terrible disservice to Parks. This kid’s family doesn’t have one beef with this officer. The kid asked for it. With all the hoopla, rioting, it may cause some younger people to think that Parks was a trumped up character also.

She wasn’t. And this is a sad day in the civil rights movement.

Why should anyone take these clowns seriously after this?


31 posted on 11/25/2014 11:21:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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To: SeekAndFind
The "gentle giant" hit a policeman in the face, tried to steal his gun and then called him a pussy and said he wouldn't shoot as he charged him.

Why would he do something so stupid? Could it be six years of race hustling and condemnation of police by the Community Organizer in Chief and Holder?

32 posted on 11/25/2014 11:23:49 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet Obama and Holder are pissed that the evidence was released to everyone.


33 posted on 11/25/2014 11:24:28 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: DoughtyOne

...”Why should anyone take these clowns seriously after this?”...

I agree with your post .....Ferguson just cut their noses off to spite their face.

I’ve worked with an associate who is black and lives in a white neighborhood where she and her family are well respected and she knows this....... But when she has family from the city come to visit there are strict ‘rules’ they must follow in order to visit..... Language, behavior and the list goes on.....one slip up and they can’t come back for a year.....and even then on “parole” for 6 months after they return. She only had to carry out for one family member and that set the pace...nobody else crossed her lines.

I thought that was genius!


34 posted on 11/25/2014 11:39:52 AM PST by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

still investigating the Lewis and Clark expedition.


35 posted on 11/25/2014 11:42:13 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

...”I bet Obama and Holder are pissed that the evidence was released to everyone”...

I don’t think so...now they know what they’re up against. It’s like laying out your cards....they’ll simply twist and tweak it all to fit whatever agenda they have in mind.....and will stretch it out for the next two ears or change laws to win what they want from this whole affair.


36 posted on 11/25/2014 11:42:53 AM PST by caww
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To: DoughtyOne
And this is a sad day in the civil rights movement.

is there any legitimacy to the civil rights movement any longer? Seriously.

37 posted on 11/25/2014 11:43:43 AM PST by uncitizen (I weep for my country)
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To: caww

Caww, it works for her and should be incorporated into other families as well. These types of dynamics are common among families. I respect her actions. She’s a credit to her family.


38 posted on 11/25/2014 11:59:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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I thought he retired.


39 posted on 11/25/2014 12:00:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: uncitizen

As a whole, I don’t believe so. Laws on the books today should take care of any remaining problems, and I encourage people to go that route if the problem is legitimate.

I’m not in favor of anyone being treated improperly.


40 posted on 11/25/2014 12:01:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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