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LIVE THREAD- Fergadishu Burning...
Various | 11-24-2014 | TCRLAF

Posted on 11/24/2014 7:07:02 PM PST by tcrlaf

CNN reporting gunshots just fired at the FErguson Police Department.

Numerous Media sources saying Obama was to speak live at 10PM EST, but he is late, as usual.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fergadishu; fergudishuriots; ferguson; fergusonmayhem; fergusonriots; fookinprawns; livefergudishuriots; livefergudisuriots; livefergusonriots; liverfersusonriots; obamasfault; obamavoters
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To: UCANSEE2

Ok, got it! Who is Bezemov?


321 posted on 11/24/2014 8:50:34 PM PST by madameguinot
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To: tcrlaf; All

Charlie Kaye CBS
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BREAKING. Ferguson Mayor James Knowles, live on kmoxnews, calls on governor to deploy National Guard in his city immediately.


322 posted on 11/24/2014 8:51:02 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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I think by announcing this at night, you minimize the risk to innocent bystanders going about their day to day. No matter when they decided to announce, the media would have found a way to say they were wrong. It is a lose lose for the authorities. The only people to blame for the violence and looting are the criminals and looters.


323 posted on 11/24/2014 8:52:06 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Ellendra

FOX2:

I-44 protesters now marching down S. Grand to new location. This is in the city of St. Louis.”


324 posted on 11/24/2014 8:52:07 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

Why the blankety-blank wasn’t the National Guard there before?!?!


325 posted on 11/24/2014 8:52:21 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: smokingfrog
0bama is going to speak.

Who cares?

326 posted on 11/24/2014 8:52:30 PM PST by sport
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What, just now, thought the N.G. were in place to deploy faster than this....


327 posted on 11/24/2014 8:53:09 PM PST by yield 2 the right
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To: Ellendra
It would have made sense to have mass protests over that baby who got his chest blown open when police threw a flash-bang device in his crib. It would've made sense to have mass protests over that kid who got shot because he answered the door with a wii in his hand.


If you are referring to Cornelia Police Department raid you are completely miscasting what transpired there

The house that was “raided” was a meth house that an informant had told the police was being guarded by armed men.

The babies crib was allegedly being used by the occupants to block and jam a door in the house to prevent home invaders from breaking in to steal their stash.

Note, the babies family had moved into this house after they allegedly burned their own house down cooking meth.

Here is the CNN report on the obviously tragic event-

“The SWAT team, made up of six or seven officers from the sheriff's department and the Cornelia Police Department, entered the Cornelia residence Wednesday before 3 a.m.
A confidential informant hours earlier had purchased methamphetamine at the house, the sheriff says. The informant told police that there were men standing guard outside the home, and it was unclear whether they were armed, according to CNN affiliate WGCL.
Because the suspected drug dealer, Wanis Thonetheva, had a previous weapons charge, officers were issued a “no-knock warrant” for the residence, Terrell said.

Wanis Thonetheva is being held without bond.
When the SWAT team hit the home's front door with a battering ram, it resisted as if something was up against it, the sheriff said, so one of the officers threw the flash-bang grenade inside the residence.
Once inside the house, the SWAT team realized it was a portable playpen blocking the door, and the flash-bang grenade had landed inside where the 19-month-old was sleeping, the sheriff said.
A medic on the scene rushed the baby outside to administer first aid, and a nearby ambulance was summoned. Authorities wanted to transport the baby via Life Flight to Atlanta's Grady Memorial Hospital, 75 miles southwest of Cornelia, but weather conditions wouldn't allow it. The baby was driven to the hospital.
Mother: ‘He didn't deserve any of this’
A Grady official said it's hospital policy not to disclose patients’ conditions, but the child's mother, Alecia Phonesavanh, told CNN affiliate WSB that doctors had put her son into an induced coma.
She further told the station the family was sleeping at her sister-in-law’s house when police arrived, and the grenade seared a hole through the portable playpen after exploding on the child's pillow.
“He didn't deserve any of this,” Phonesavanh told WSB. “He's in the burn unit. We go up to see him and his whole face is ripped open. He has a big cut on his chest.”
Thonetheva, 30, was not at the home at the time of the raid, but the toddler's mother and father and their other three children were inside. Thonetheva's mother was also at the house, Terrell said.
The baby's family had moved into the Cornelia residence after their Wisconsin home burned, Terrell told CNN affiliate WXIA, and while the family members were aware of drug activity in the home, “they kept the children out of sight in a different room while any of these going-ons were happening.”
Thonetheva was arrested at another Cornelia residence, along with three other people, shortly after the raid, Terrell said. He is charged with distribution of methamphetamine. Habersham County Chief Assistant District Attorney J. Edward Staples said Thonetheva could also be charged in connection with the baby's injuries.
Thonetheva was already out on bond for an October 2013 charge of possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony — the felony being distribution of methamphetamine, Staples said.”

So the facts are a little different than the story circulating and while the use of the flash bang was questionable I'm not sure it documents the case police officers out of control.

Flash bangs have saved more bad guys lives than can be counted because they tend to prevent gunfights when Police enter a house to arrest a bad guy.

I am troubled by the increasing frequency of mistaken SWAT raids, but consider this - 30 years ago SWAT teams were mostly ordinary street officers who volunteered for special training to respond to occasional serious or potentially violent events like hostage taking and worked as a team a couple times a year when necessary .

Nowadays, some SWAT Teams in larger metro areas are often working full time 24/7 arresting multiple, violent, heavily armed hyper violent gang or cartel members in semi fortified safe houses in gang controlled neighborhoods that essentially no go zones for conventional patrol officers.

Increasingly, SWAT teams are responsible for liberating and probably saving the lives kidnapped illegal aliens being held hostage and brutalized.

SWAT operations are more and more becoming some officers regular day to day jobs in today's brave new world and the level of violence of the bad guys they deal with justifies their methods.

Overall, SWAT Teams are generally very professional and have very good records in dealing with dangerous situations while protecting the by standing public. I am sure there are cases of SWAT teams making errors or using excessive force, but it is slander to wrongly accuse many of the dedicated, selfless and brave police officers of misconduct.

Have your facts straight before you wrongly slander the conduct of police officers dealing with total scum bags. I find it amazing anyone would diss the police while listening to the much maligned Ferguson Police risking their lives under serious gun fire trying to protect their city from hard core criminals and professional revolutionaries.

You should be f**king ashamed of yourself

328 posted on 11/24/2014 8:53:17 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: concerned about politics

Setting fire in the rear of the Metro

https://vine.co/v/O1XJehbVdwb


329 posted on 11/24/2014 8:53:28 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Its OK, the SEIU and the Teacher’s Union will be happy to bus in reinforcements soon.
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330 posted on 11/24/2014 8:53:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: redlegplanner
is there a curfew?

Even if there was, would that stop people who are currently carrying 70inch TV sets out through broken windows right in front of cameras and police ?

Besides, the DOJ negotiated a NO CURFEW with St. Louis politicos.

331 posted on 11/24/2014 8:53:50 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: stlnative
They are burning the Public Storage down too... O’reilly auto parts was just broken into. I cannot believe this - They said they would not allow this to happen. The police presence has been much smaller tonight.

The Governor is apparently not using the Guard?

332 posted on 11/24/2014 8:54:13 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: tcrlaf

Should have been staged before the announcement.


333 posted on 11/24/2014 8:55:12 PM PST by matt04
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To: UCANSEE2

I agree - just hearing the scanner report heavy traffic and wondered why that was being allowed vice locking down the whole area.


334 posted on 11/24/2014 8:55:19 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: caww

Check this out...you see them live while robbing the metro...vine got it good!

https://vine.co/v/O1XJtlxAhdb


335 posted on 11/24/2014 8:55:34 PM PST by caww
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To: FreeReign
The Governor is apparently not using the Guard?


336 posted on 11/24/2014 8:56:29 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County)
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To: matt04

Fox news reporter saying that no one seems to be in charge of stopping the chaos. And it is continuing. And in other cities.
Obama’s plan in action...on the way to Martial law, I am afraid.


337 posted on 11/24/2014 8:56:37 PM PST by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: redlegplanner

Post 335...you see the idiots on store video setting fire and stealing...both will surely be identified and go to prison.....idiots doesn’t say enough...


338 posted on 11/24/2014 8:57:44 PM PST by caww
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To: mmichaels1970

Mark Levin said something to the same effect - The announcement was made at night to give everyone who wanted to a chance to get home without traffic jams.


339 posted on 11/24/2014 8:58:35 PM PST by jonatron (This is the Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave.)
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To: CitizenM

-People climbing the wall into the “eEmerson Complex”. Dispatch asked officer to confirm.

-White Buick Regal driving down flourisant shooting.

New fire at O’Reily Auto Parts.
“Fully Engulfed in fire”


340 posted on 11/24/2014 8:59:15 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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