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This guy makes a very good case for not throwing up our hands.
1 posted on 11/23/2014 1:38:39 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Sorry, not accepting the author's premise.
2 posted on 11/23/2014 1:41:57 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (NO COMPROMISE! NO BIPARTISANSHIP! STOP OBAMA NOW!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Border control before anything else.


3 posted on 11/23/2014 1:46:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Does anyone besides me see the absolute absurdity of this?

God, lets not upset the Hispanics.

Whites? Who gives a rip? Screw them over face to face, no worries at all.

This used to cause me to wonder what the heck? And then it finally dawned on me. Our leaders are engineering the destruction of White America. They have decided they want the Hispanics to populate the nation and White people to simply die off or go elsewhere.

The strange thing is, some folks will read this and think me a racist for saying this so boldly. It will not dawn on them that I’m just describing what is going on. Our leaders are the ones actually doing it.


4 posted on 11/23/2014 1:47:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The argument against the eo should be the same regardless of the audience.

If we start tailoring rationale to fit the ethnicity of the listener we are screwed anyway. We have accepted the progressives view of v the world - no one has value except as a member of a group.

Why don't people get this?

5 posted on 11/23/2014 1:49:22 PM PST by skeeter
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To: SoFloFreeper

How? By soliciting the support from the tens if not hundreds of thousands of legal Hispanic immigrants who are NOT HAPPY with the illegals getting a pass on breaking the law, going to the front of line and getting whatever they want because of maverick moron in the Half/White House.


10 posted on 11/23/2014 1:54:35 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Enlisting these Hispanics...is key

Key to what?

Every 1% increase in the GOP White vote is worth a 7%-8% increase in the "Hispanic" vote. AND - increasing appeal to Whites is likely to further our principal goals of shrinking the government and restoring the Republic, while Hispandering is likely to do the reverse.

2016 = Go White, Go Right, or Go Home.

12 posted on 11/23/2014 2:00:08 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Why should we care what "Hispanics" think? I thought race/ethnicity was irrelevant?

Above all, conservatives must not confuse “Hispanics” with “illegal.”

How about Hispanics acknowledge that that the overwhelming majority of illegals, and for that matter immigrants in general, are Hispanic? Kind of hard to not talk about that aspect particularly when the invasion is completely altering our culture and landscape.

Any off-tone comment will be seized upon by the White House and played on Univision all night.

Univision? Why should we care about that? Oh that's right it is a TV network for the Not Single-Issue Illegal Immigration Voters(Hispanics)...

You just hope and pray that whites are not that stupid. Of course we allow for the Black & Hispanics caucuses(isn't that racial? and maybe stupid?)

15 posted on 11/23/2014 2:04:01 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: SoFloFreeper

Same old sheeet, year in year out...over and over and over and over and over.....

And over and over and over....


17 posted on 11/23/2014 2:10:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Legal immigrants understand very well the difference between legal and illegal.

And hispanic US citizens know it too. They want to see their cousins treated with dignity, but they understand legal versus illegal.

No one expects Mexico to open its borders and hand out residence visas to any Honduran or Guatemalan to wade the river. GOP just needs to have some confidence, and make the case. I’ve never had any trouble explaining a rational immigration policy to hispanic friends or immigrant friends or latin american friends. They all understand borders and the need for them. They want their fellow countrymen treated with respect; its quite possible to do that and still enforce the law.


18 posted on 11/23/2014 2:13:40 PM PST by marron
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To: SoFloFreeper

It is necessary to understand, though, that Televisa and Univision are completely in the bag for the DNC and are not going to even attempt to be fair about this. They never fail to make it about race; endlessly they assure their viewers that anyone who is concerned about illegal immigration quite simply “hates the color brown”.

So it becomes important to find someone who is a least minimally charismatic, who is willing to boldly make the case for rational border and immigration policy and make it in Spanish for Univision viewers. That, and find alternate communications media for reaching Spanish speakers. Granted, citizens are supposed to be able to speak English and most do, but to make this argument credible to Spanish speakers it has to be made by someone they will recognize as one of their own... more than one of their own.

When Republicans are bold about what they believe they are actually more attractive to hispanic voters than when they are weasels; no one respects a weasel and certainly no one wants to become one of them.


19 posted on 11/23/2014 2:21:52 PM PST by marron
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ask them, why did they or their ancestors leave the old country and come to the US? For many, one reason was the personal security and economic opportunity that come from the rule of law.


21 posted on 11/23/2014 2:22:09 PM PST by omega4412
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To: SoFloFreeper

Policy, and the Principle it SHOULD BE BASED ON, should never factor in the race of those it will apply to, NEVER.

Policy should always be based on Principle, and let the cards lay where they will.


22 posted on 11/23/2014 2:27:39 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I won’t read this article. From the headline, when a country is reluctant to defend its sovereignty because it might offend the invader, then it is lost. Only an emasculated fool would even consider offending to be an obstacle.


23 posted on 11/23/2014 2:30:40 PM PST by odawg
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To: SoFloFreeper; Kansas58; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Brownback won the Hispanic vote in Kansas? This surprises me, even if turnout was low.


32 posted on 11/24/2014 6:52:25 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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Team Planning Guide for your "National Day of Reckoning" protest against Obama's Illegal Amnesty - (click)

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36 posted on 11/24/2014 11:23:16 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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