The Truth Behind JFK's Assassination

"Film and physics are not subjective."

The film doesn't show a bullet hitting him. It shows him going backward after his head exploded. You interpretations of that are not external physical evidence. They are your interpretations.

"Watch the film in real time. HE falls back after the violent head snap.....in the direction the shot had taken him."

Seen it many times. A shot from the grassy knoll would have been from his right side, not the front. The bullet would have been in line to hit Jackie.

We aren't talking about a sack of potatoes. We are talking about a living human. He is capable of movement. After his head exploded his body pulled backwards. There is no physical evidence of a shot from the front. In real life bullets do not throw people around.

"Read the testimony. Read why Jackie went to the trunk. Read the testimony of the cop who was following the limo. Read about the Harper fragment. You’re right, the gore went in all directions and went all over the inside of the limo but the pattern was left-rear."

I have, it doesn't support your point. First, Jackie didn't testify to why she went on the trunk. She didn't recall doing it. The cop following was hit by matter from the exploding head, which went in all directions. The Harper fragment wasn't found behind the limo.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/harper.htm

"There is no question that the explosion from the bullet impact radiates matter in all directions. The fine matter can be seen surrounding the President's head. However, the major direction of this matter is just forward of the President's head. The major, or large particles which are actually measurable on the film, and have contiguous boundaries which hold together during flight, all radiate in a forward direction [emphasis in original]. ("John Kennedy Assassination Film Analysis," Itek Corporation, May 2, 1976, Lexington, Mass., p. 56) "

"LBJ had to be president he HAD to be!!!!!! This was the only/quickest/surest way he could get there!"

Look at the bios of Bill Clinton and John Kerry and you'll see the same thing.

Motive is not enough. Plenty of people can have motive. Evidence is required. There is no evidence showing LBJ got Oswald to do it. None.

Oswald slit his wrists in Russia, he wasn’t a nut like Arthur Bremer, John Hinckley, Chapman, Jared Laughner but LHO had a chip-on-his-shoulder that was huge, probably why he acted that way, mixed-up.

Clinton and Kerry neither one was VP. Killing the president would not have given the office to them. When LBJ became president he was in a position to control the investigation and never incriminate himself. He was a power hungry evil man.

LBJ was in that motorcade, yet HOW MANY photos do you see of him sitting upright, as would be normal...?

I’m sure it didn’t matter that LBJ and JFK loathed each other —I’m sure of it.

If Johnson killed Kennedy, it may have been self-defense. There were a lot of assassinations and assassination attempts around the world in the Kennedy era and the Kennedys and the government had their hand in some of them. My guess would have been that Kennedy would have been more likely to have Johnson killed than Johnson was to have Kennedy killed.

I’m also sure it didn’t matter that LBJ ran the state of Texas, most securely in Dallas, which hosted that assassination.

Bill O'Reilly and his collaborator say in their book that Johnson saw his power in the state slip away while he was sidelined in Washington. LBJ was going to Texas to shore up his own power in the state as much as to support Kennedy's reelection, at least according to O'Reilly's book.

morphing librarian, references to Dave Powers and Kenny O'Donnell citing hearing shots from behind the fence were made by Brent Holland on a program last night sourced to Tip O'Neill in Man of the House.
Senator Ralph Yarborough smelled gunpowder at the knoll and fence area which drew a crowd including motorcycle policemen.
An account of witnesses appears at Grassy Knoll Witnesses.
The extant article is a continuation of the fraud perpetrated through the Warren (read Dulles) Commission by Hoover's FBI, a cherry-picked a priori frame described by Gerald McKnight in Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why, 2005.
Gerald Posner used similar methods in 1993 as did Vincent Bugliosi, thoroughly deconstructed and exposed by Jim DiEugenio in Reclaiming Parkland.
Oswald was not in the window per witness testimony (prior to government intimidation) and the observance of Vickie Adams (The Girl on the Stairs by Barry Earnest); did not fire any weapon per the DPD paraffin cheek test negative result confirmed by Atomic Energy Commission Oak Ridge Lab which also tested seven actual shooters all of whom tested positive.
Oswald likely did not order, receive, store, practice with, transport, use, conceal the weapon per Gil Jesus and John Armstrong.
Sherry Fiester a certified crime scene investigator in Enemy of the Truth has presented the forensic case for a frontal fatal shot to the right temple exiting the right occipitoparietal in a classic avulsive wound of two-and-a-half inches diameter, and provided a trajectory cone centered on the South Knoll, excluding any shot from behind, e.g., any window in the Depository.
Reports of attempts by assassins in Florida and Chicago have been suppressed, while the pre-engineeered patsy in Dallas, an intelligence operative trained at Nags Head in 1957, sent to Moscow in 1959, retrieved via CIA domestic contacts officer J. Walton Moore and CIA asset George DeMohrenshildt were put into place immediately.
David Phillips had established the purported Mexico City contact with KGB officer Colonel Kostikov of the assassination directorate, the so-called Red Plot used to force compliance by a host of government officials and agencies "to avoid a war in which forty million die in the first hour".
The second-stage "lone gunman" was the designated fall-back.
As Bertrand Russell asked in 1964, where is the issue of national security in the actions of a single individual?
The consortium of interests conspiring against the policies of the 35th president is presented by James Douglass in JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, 2008.
James Angleton head of counterintelligence created the false defector Oswald, and Phillips continued it in Mexico City, having further sheepdipped Oswald in an operation run with James McCord against Fair Play for Cuba Committee.
Oswald was an intelligence operative manipulated into a frameup for JFK, Tippit, Walker, none which hs is guilty of.
I went to New York with Dick Allen's YAF group (Allen, Richard V.) to draft Goldwater--but the country was denied the enlightening debate between Goldwater and Kennedy which would have highlighted the choice between withdrawal and victory.
Instead America had a corrupt puppet who stumbled in deepening despair--even refusing the joint chiefs' request to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong November 1965: Vietnam 1965: The Day It Became the Longest War.
Oswald was silenced by Ruby who had been in contact with associates of Marcello, Roselli, Giancana, Hoffa and others who earlier were solicited for action against Castro by William Harvey through Robert Mayheu, an operation which former NSA analyst John Newman (Oswald and the CIA, 1995/2008) suggested carried in its shadow the action against Kennedy.
Between the National Defense Acts of 1947 and 1949 President Harry S. Truman granted CIA permission to conduct covert operations which would be plausibly deniable by U.S. government.
The withdrawal of NSAM 263 of October was replaced by McGeorge Bundy's NSAM 273 signed the day after JFK's funeral by LBJ.
What might Nixon have achieved in the wake of LBJ's rudderless policy had Helms not put McCord, Hunt, Sturgis, et al on the sabotaged Watergate operation to bring down the inconvenient temporary occupant of the White House using an ONI mole (Woodward).
Now comes the Muslim DCI who sanitized Obama's passport file and hacked Hasting's Mercedes under the NRO satellite boasting an octopus bragging "Nothing Is Beyond Our Reach"--
--read: Nothing Is Beyond Government's Power to Corrupt and Despoil.

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Thanx

Fascinating.

Every segment of the assassination has multiple interpretations from multiple sources. I didn’t say Jackie testified to the trunk incident...others did though.

A body shot wouldn’t throw a person around, a head shot would and does through.

Your claim that the film doesn’t show a bullet hitting him is true. Unless it was taken with an ultra fast camera, it wouldn’t. That is semantics. JFK’s head was facing slightly forward at the time of the shot. The film shows a halo of matter, but the majority of the blood/tissue flew to the left rear.

I live 40 miles from Dallas and have been to Dealy Plaza many times. A shot from the GK would have been from the right and forward of the limo.

The President immediately goes limp and falls into Jackie.

The cop testified that he was splattered by the gore. The limo had almost come to a stop, so the cop didn’t drive into the matter. The skull fragment was found in a direct line from a shot from the right and forward of the limo.

More people heard shots from the Texas School Depository than from anywhere else. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/shots.htm

HSCA has the low number of 20% hearing shots from the Knoll.

There is so much evidence Oswald killed Tippit, it’s absurd to think otherwise.

Just the Saturday before, Ruby got all bent out of shape about an “Impeach Earl Warren” sign.http://rosamondpress.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/lee27.jpg

Oswald was court martialed.

Oswald tried to commit suicide in the USSR.

Oswald claimed he was a communist, changing it to Marxist-Leninist later on.

Oswald beat his wife.

Oswald was a habitual liar.

Oswald’s records show he even got into trouble as an adolescent.

Oswald was never seen with all of these hotshots, CIA agents people claim.

Good luck building a conspiracy around him.

"When LBJ became president he was in a position to control the investigation and never incriminate himself. He was a power hungry evil man."

You are still just talking motive. It's easy to imagine a motive for many people. It doesn't mean anything. The evidence says what happened.

You can add:

Oswald was taking pot shots at General Walker six months before. Not the kind of person you would then want to bring into your conspiracy to kill the president.

"Every segment of the assassination has multiple interpretations from multiple sources. I didn’t say Jackie testified to the trunk incident...others did though."

You said see the testimony about why Jackie went on the trunk. Only Jackie could testify to that, and she didn't.

Yes there are multiple interpretations. Not all equal. People love to make up stuff. The point however was that the film is not objective evidence of a shot from the front. That's just one interpretation.

"Your claim that the film doesn’t show a bullet hitting him is true. Unless it was taken with an ultra fast camera, it wouldn’t. That is semantics. JFK’s head was facing slightly forward at the time of the shot. The film shows a halo of matter, but the majority of the blood/tissue flew to the left rear."

It's not semantics. The film isn't objective evidence of a shot from the front, because it doesn't show a bullet. Anything else is interpretation.

It's not true the majority of tissue went to the left rear. See the quote in my last post.

"I live 40 miles from Dallas and have been to Dealy Plaza many times. A shot from the GK would have been from the right and forward of the limo."

Depends on the location of the limo at that instant. There have been trajectory studies on this. It would have been more from the side than from the front at the position of the head shot.

"The cop testified that he was splattered by the gore. The limo had almost come to a stop, so the cop didn’t drive into the matter. The skull fragment was found in a direct line from a shot from the right and forward of the limo."

Of course he did. The head exploded and tissue went in all directions, and the cop was driving into it.

The limo did not almost come to a stop, nor did the cop.

See the material about the Harper fragment I posted earlier. It wasn't found to the rear.

Don't take what you read in conspiracy books at face value. They routinely make stuff up.

“You said see the testimony about why Jackie went on the trunk. Only Jackie could testify to that, and she didn’t...”

And again, I didn’t say she did. Others testified that she retrieved the skull fragment, held it in her hand on the way to Parkland and handed it to people there.

We’re not going to agree here. I don’t get my info from “conspiracy books”.

I’d say the same to you. Don’t take what you read at face value. People make stuff up.

There is also so much information, I know I had heard someone picked up a piece of scalp on the grass area, it may well have been the Posner book, Case Closed, that alluded to it, could have been in the Warren Commission.

There is so much information that even when people are being honest, they can easily mess some factoid up.

I’ve been around the block on assassination lore, there is so much out there, Billy Sol Estes, some Native American fellow who allegedly was in it on it too, I’m fairly familiar with the diverse theories out there.

OK I watched zapruder for the hundredth time.
The people on the curb across the street from the grassy knoll are not looking at the school book depository. You statement “all witnesses” is an exaggeration.
We know LBJ did not look at the building because he hunkered down in the back seat before anyone else reacted to a shot.
Also, there is footage somewhere of many people and cops running up to the grassy knoll. So, according to your logic using spectator reaction many people thought something happened behind the fence.

There are many films and still photos from that day besides the Zapruder film. The NOVA and National Geographic programs on the assassination have some of these.

If you were there would you run toward the direction of the shots, or away from it?

There is no doubt Oswald shot the president. Why would Johnson or his men chose Oswald for that role? Is he the kind of reliable operative you would want for that job?

Why would they position other shooters from different directions if Oswald was being set up as a patsy? Any shots that hit anything from a direction other than the Depository would reveal multiple shooters, thus negating the plan to have Oswald be the fall guy.

I merely watched one film to disprove the exaggerated comment about what “all witnesses” did.

The people running toward the fence are more evidence of that being a false comment.

This crap could be a lot more easily discussed if people like you did not exaggerate and make false claims.

HSCA came up with similar conclusions as the Warren Commission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations

It had members like Henry Gonzales and Louis Stokes, oh, another cover up I suppose!

"And again, I didn’t say she did. Others testified that she retrieved the skull fragment, held it in her hand on the way to Parkland and handed it to people there."

Not that she got it off the trunk, no.

"We’re not going to agree here. I don’t get my info from “conspiracy books”."

"I’d say the same to you. Don’t take what you read at face value. People make stuff up."

I already know that lesson, but you are repeating things said in conspiracy books that are in conflict with the evidence.