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Labor unions celebrate judge's ruling against Illinois pension law
WBEZ ^ | November 21, 2014 | Tony Arnold

Posted on 11/21/2014 4:07:11 PM PST by mdittmar

An Illinois judge has ruled unconstitutional a controversial plan to reduce state employees’ retirement benefits.

Labor groups sued the State of Illinois for passing a bill reducing their members’ pension benefits. The unions representing downstate and suburban teachers, university employees and most other state workers argued the state constitution says, specifically, that retirement benefits can’t be diminished. On Friday, Sangamon County Circuit Court Judge John Belz agreed.

Belz quoted directly from the state constitution in his six-page decision, citing the passage that states retirement benefits “shall not be diminished or repaired.” He singled out components of the bill that narrowly passed the state legislature last year to explain why he was ruling against the state. For instance, the law changed cost-of-living increases certain employees receive in retirement, and put a cap on some employees’ pensionable salary.

“The State of Illinois made a constitutionally protected promise to its employees concerning their pension benefits,” Belz wrote in his decision. “Under established and uncontroverted Illinois law, the State of Illinois cannot break this promise.”

Labor unions representing employees who are in those retirement systems celebrated the decision.

“The court granted us everything. The court saw it our way,” said Dan Montgomery, president of the Illinois Federation of Teachers. “This is an unambiguous, unequivocal victory for the constitution and for working people.”

“Retirees who earned their modest security in retirement, they always paid their share. And they should not be punished for the failures of politicians,” said Anders Lindall, a spokesman for the We Are One Coalition, a group of labor unions.

Attorneys who defended the bill acknowledged that it reduced benefits, but argued it is needed to deal with a $105 billion unfunded pension liability. Studies have shown that massive debt tied to Illinois’ retirement payments is the worst of any state in the country.

Gov. Pat Quinn, and those who supported the legislation, argue basic functions of state government are in danger if the pension law is found to be unconstitutional.

“This historic pension reform law eliminates the state’s unfunded liability and fully stabilizes the systems to ensure retirement security for employees who have faithfully contributed to them,” Quinn said in a statement.

The Democratic governor was defeated in this month’s election by Republican Bruce Rauner, who also released a statement asking the state’s Supreme Court to take up the case as soon as possible.

The office of Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan is defending the law in court. Her office said Friday that it will ask the state Supreme Court to expedite an appeal “given the significant impact that a final decision in this case will have on the state’s fiscal condition.”

Meantime, Democratic Senate President John Cullerton is considering a plan, in case the state Supreme Court agrees with Judge Belz and throws out the law. Cullerton had pushed for a separate pension proposal that would ask employees to choose between earning state-funded health care coverage in retirement or receiving pay increases.

“If they throw it out, we’ll be back to square one and then we go back again to the alternative that already passed the Senate and when that passes, save some money that we can then pass on to education funding and whatever else we want to utilize that savings,” Cullerton said Friday.

Legislators would have to re-visit Cullerton’s proposal in a new General Assembly, after January’s inauguration.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: illinois; pensions; unions
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Well Illinois,there is two ways to deal with the $105 billion unfunded pension liability,cut benefits or raise taxes.

What will you do?

1 posted on 11/21/2014 4:07:11 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Hey Judge, you going to run the printing presses? Oh, wait, a state can’t mint money.

So, Judge, you moron, when Illinois runs out of money and can’t pay YOU, what will you do?

Idiot.


2 posted on 11/21/2014 4:11:37 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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Illinois DETROIT here we come..
3 posted on 11/21/2014 4:13:08 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: mdittmar

There’s a third option.

Bankruptcy.

And if the Unions push it and it arrives they may well wish they had made a deal now.


4 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:12 PM PST by DB
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To: mdittmar

Actually, the only real question is: Is a legislature’s budget making ability sovereign or not? Can previous legislatures lock out any and all budgetary choices?

If the answer is no, it is not sovereign, what’s the point of elections? One single legislature could enact an eternal budget and it is all done with.

Seems to me to be a dance that the courts have tried mightily not step out to, but the music’s growing louder.


5 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:42 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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"Retirees who earned their modest security in retirement..."

Uh huh, leftscum.

Directed at the author of this bilge, not you, mdittmar.

6 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:49 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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Oops. Goofed the link. Try this one.
7 posted on 11/21/2014 4:16:57 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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To: mdittmar

We need the same judge to explain to Obama that he can’t just ignore the law and do whatever the hell he wants.


8 posted on 11/21/2014 4:18:04 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: mdittmar

Yet the same courts overturned traditional marriage state constitutional amendments in a heart beat...


9 posted on 11/21/2014 4:18:23 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Oh, wait, a state can’t mint money.

No, but like Utah they can monetize gold and silver.

10 posted on 11/21/2014 4:20:41 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: kingu

From the articles it looks like the judge cited straight from the state constitution to base the decision.
So the other option is to amend their state constitution so as to keep their state from going belly up.


11 posted on 11/21/2014 4:23:21 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: DB

You are correct,Bankruptcy is an option,lot’s of States may be headed that way.


12 posted on 11/21/2014 4:23:52 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: DB
There’s a third option. Bankruptcy.

And perhaps a fourth. Amend the state constitution.

13 posted on 11/21/2014 4:23:57 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Clump

I’m sure you are aware that even if the constitution is amended it only effects new employees. Remember the USC prohibits ex-post facto laws. Bankruptcy is not an option for Sovereign states


14 posted on 11/21/2014 4:32:18 PM PST by vitaman
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To: mdittmar

They will automatically reduce when the fund runs out of money due to union mismanagement.


15 posted on 11/21/2014 4:35:29 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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Detroit’s $20 billion dollar debt doesn’t look so bad after all.

Some states are in seriously bad shape and we should loudly resist a federal bailout. Its why I supported a Michigan bailout of Detroit rather than federal. It sucks for us but with the state in GOP hands its not just a blank check to the city and some good is being done.


16 posted on 11/21/2014 4:37:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: mdittmar

We have it figured out in CA. We just don’t talk about it since there is not one Elected Republican holding State Wide Office.

The multi Billion Dollar unfunded Pension Liability must have disappeared overnight. I wonder where it went?


17 posted on 11/21/2014 4:41:05 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (11/04/14, the day people finally realized that their Dictator is just a Dick..)
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To: cripplecreek

I think the only states that will get bailouts (assuming ongoing Dem control of the WH) are Cal, Ill, and NY.
Those are 107 electoral votes that are the locked in for Dems without having to spend a penny of campaign money.


18 posted on 11/21/2014 4:41:21 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: mdittmar

Bankruptcy is the other route.
Federal law will then allow them to cut bennies.


19 posted on 11/21/2014 4:44:14 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: kingu

The legislature is a creation of the constitution. It’s powers and it’s limits are defined by that contract.
The constitution must be sovereign.


20 posted on 11/21/2014 4:48:37 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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