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Well Illinois,there is two ways to deal with the $105 billion unfunded pension liability,cut benefits or raise taxes.

What will you do?

1 posted on 11/21/2014 4:07:11 PM PST by mdittmar
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Hey Judge, you going to run the printing presses? Oh, wait, a state can’t mint money.

So, Judge, you moron, when Illinois runs out of money and can’t pay YOU, what will you do?

Idiot.


2 posted on 11/21/2014 4:11:37 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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Illinois DETROIT here we come..
3 posted on 11/21/2014 4:13:08 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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There’s a third option.

Bankruptcy.

And if the Unions push it and it arrives they may well wish they had made a deal now.


4 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:12 PM PST by DB
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Actually, the only real question is: Is a legislature’s budget making ability sovereign or not? Can previous legislatures lock out any and all budgetary choices?

If the answer is no, it is not sovereign, what’s the point of elections? One single legislature could enact an eternal budget and it is all done with.

Seems to me to be a dance that the courts have tried mightily not step out to, but the music’s growing louder.


5 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:42 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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"Retirees who earned their modest security in retirement..."

Uh huh, leftscum.

Directed at the author of this bilge, not you, mdittmar.

6 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:49 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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We need the same judge to explain to Obama that he can’t just ignore the law and do whatever the hell he wants.


8 posted on 11/21/2014 4:18:04 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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Yet the same courts overturned traditional marriage state constitutional amendments in a heart beat...


9 posted on 11/21/2014 4:18:23 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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They will automatically reduce when the fund runs out of money due to union mismanagement.


15 posted on 11/21/2014 4:35:29 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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We have it figured out in CA. We just don’t talk about it since there is not one Elected Republican holding State Wide Office.

The multi Billion Dollar unfunded Pension Liability must have disappeared overnight. I wonder where it went?


17 posted on 11/21/2014 4:41:05 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (11/04/14, the day people finally realized that their Dictator is just a Dick..)
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Bankruptcy is the other route.
Federal law will then allow them to cut bennies.


19 posted on 11/21/2014 4:44:14 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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If the article is accurate, it sounds like the decision was correct. Bad idea to have that in your state constitution though.


21 posted on 11/21/2014 4:51:48 PM PST by AbortionIsEvil
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Consider that sorry state file bankruptcy? Then the Trough Feeders can be told to take what ever they get.

Doubtlessly, even then they will get more than they deserve, like Pooblik Skrewl Collective edumacators.


22 posted on 11/21/2014 4:52:33 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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“Retirees who earned their modest security in retirement, they always paid their share. And they should not be punished for the failures of politicians,”

The taxpayers shouldn't be punished by the failure of politicians, either.

A third way is to cut other areas of the budget to pay the retirees. Probably not a popular choice, but residents would no doubt prefer that to rising taxes. But there's probably so much in the budget that's mandatory spending, that it can't be cut much.

27 posted on 11/21/2014 5:02:10 PM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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I said this for months before they passed this useless piece of crap. The Illinois State Constitution is crystal clear on the matter. THAT’S why my home state is so completely screwed.

The only remedy is to modify the Illinois Constitutuon. And that ain’t gonna happen.

L


28 posted on 11/21/2014 5:05:33 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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I wonder how the Federal Bankruptcy judge will rule when they finally go bankrupt.


29 posted on 11/21/2014 5:35:55 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Put lipstick on a Communist and call it a Progressive, but it's still a Communist with lipstick.)
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Since Judge Belz didn’t recuse himself, I presume that he’s NOT a member of one of the Illinois systems and therefore was not conflicted.

But the Illinois Circuit is a state court system, so this makes me wonder whether he was deciding on his own benefits.


30 posted on 11/21/2014 5:47:25 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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They can’t cut benefits - not without changing the constitution.

Benefits are an entrenched clause and a law cutting them is unconstitutional.

The judge’s hands were tied. I would have ruled the same way.


32 posted on 11/21/2014 6:12:21 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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