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Labor unions celebrate judge's ruling against Illinois pension law
WBEZ ^ | November 21, 2014 | Tony Arnold

Posted on 11/21/2014 4:07:11 PM PST by mdittmar

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Well Illinois,there is two ways to deal with the $105 billion unfunded pension liability,cut benefits or raise taxes.

What will you do?

1 posted on 11/21/2014 4:07:11 PM PST by mdittmar
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Hey Judge, you going to run the printing presses? Oh, wait, a state can’t mint money.

So, Judge, you moron, when Illinois runs out of money and can’t pay YOU, what will you do?

Idiot.


2 posted on 11/21/2014 4:11:37 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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Illinois DETROIT here we come..
3 posted on 11/21/2014 4:13:08 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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There’s a third option.

Bankruptcy.

And if the Unions push it and it arrives they may well wish they had made a deal now.


4 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:12 PM PST by DB
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Actually, the only real question is: Is a legislature’s budget making ability sovereign or not? Can previous legislatures lock out any and all budgetary choices?

If the answer is no, it is not sovereign, what’s the point of elections? One single legislature could enact an eternal budget and it is all done with.

Seems to me to be a dance that the courts have tried mightily not step out to, but the music’s growing louder.


5 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:42 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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"Retirees who earned their modest security in retirement..."

Uh huh, leftscum.

Directed at the author of this bilge, not you, mdittmar.

6 posted on 11/21/2014 4:14:49 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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Oops. Goofed the link. Try this one.
7 posted on 11/21/2014 4:16:57 PM PST by piytar (No government has ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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We need the same judge to explain to Obama that he can’t just ignore the law and do whatever the hell he wants.


8 posted on 11/21/2014 4:18:04 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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Yet the same courts overturned traditional marriage state constitutional amendments in a heart beat...


9 posted on 11/21/2014 4:18:23 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Oh, wait, a state can’t mint money.

No, but like Utah they can monetize gold and silver.

10 posted on 11/21/2014 4:20:41 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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From the articles it looks like the judge cited straight from the state constitution to base the decision.
So the other option is to amend their state constitution so as to keep their state from going belly up.


11 posted on 11/21/2014 4:23:21 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: DB

You are correct,Bankruptcy is an option,lot’s of States may be headed that way.


12 posted on 11/21/2014 4:23:52 PM PST by mdittmar
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There’s a third option. Bankruptcy.

And perhaps a fourth. Amend the state constitution.

13 posted on 11/21/2014 4:23:57 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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I’m sure you are aware that even if the constitution is amended it only effects new employees. Remember the USC prohibits ex-post facto laws. Bankruptcy is not an option for Sovereign states


14 posted on 11/21/2014 4:32:18 PM PST by vitaman
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They will automatically reduce when the fund runs out of money due to union mismanagement.


15 posted on 11/21/2014 4:35:29 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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Detroit’s $20 billion dollar debt doesn’t look so bad after all.

Some states are in seriously bad shape and we should loudly resist a federal bailout. Its why I supported a Michigan bailout of Detroit rather than federal. It sucks for us but with the state in GOP hands its not just a blank check to the city and some good is being done.


16 posted on 11/21/2014 4:37:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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We have it figured out in CA. We just don’t talk about it since there is not one Elected Republican holding State Wide Office.

The multi Billion Dollar unfunded Pension Liability must have disappeared overnight. I wonder where it went?


17 posted on 11/21/2014 4:41:05 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (11/04/14, the day people finally realized that their Dictator is just a Dick..)
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I think the only states that will get bailouts (assuming ongoing Dem control of the WH) are Cal, Ill, and NY.
Those are 107 electoral votes that are the locked in for Dems without having to spend a penny of campaign money.


18 posted on 11/21/2014 4:41:21 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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Bankruptcy is the other route.
Federal law will then allow them to cut bennies.


19 posted on 11/21/2014 4:44:14 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: kingu

The legislature is a creation of the constitution. It’s powers and it’s limits are defined by that contract.
The constitution must be sovereign.


20 posted on 11/21/2014 4:48:37 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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