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I Just Spent 7 Days Watching Only Russian News And Reading Pravda — Here's What I Learned
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| Nov. 18, 2014
| Vitaliy Katsenelson
Posted on 11/19/2014 1:40:41 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
Edited on 11/23/2014 8:57:37 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
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I grew up hating America. I lived in the Soviet Union and was a child of the Cold War. That hate went away in 1989, though, when the Berlin Wall fell and the Cold War ended. By the time I left Russia in 1991, the year the Soviet Union collapsed, America was a country that Russians looked up to and wanted to emulate.
Twenty-three years later, a new version of cold war is back, though we Americans haven't realized it yet. But I am getting ahead of myself.
After Russia invaded Crimea and staged its referendum, I thought Vladimir Putin's foreign excursions were over. Taking back Crimea violated plenty of international laws, but let's be honest. Though major powers like the US and Russia write the international laws, they are not really expected to abide by those laws if they find them not to be in their best interests. Those laws are for everyone else. I am not condoning such behavior, but I can clearly see how Russians could justify taking Crimea back after all, it used to belong to Russia.
I was perplexed by how the Russian people could possibly support and not be outraged by Russia's invasion of Ukraine. But I live in Denver, and I read mostly US and European newspapers. I wanted to see what was going on in Russia and Ukraine from the Russian perspective, so I went on a seven-day news diet: I watched only Russian TV Channel One Russia, the state-owned broadcaster, which I hadn't seen in more than 20 years and read Pravda, the Russian newspaper whose name means "Truth." Here is what I learned:
- If Russia did not reclaim Crimea, once the new, illegitimate government came to power in Ukraine, the Russian navy would have been kicked out and the US Navy would have started using Crimean ports as navy bases.
- There are no Russian troops in Ukraine, nor were there ever any there. If any Russian soldiers were found there (and there were), those soldiers were on leave. They went to Ukraine to support their Russian brothers and sisters who are being abused by Ukrainian nationalists. (They may have borrowed a tank or two, or a highly specialized Russian-made missile system that is capable of shooting down planes, but for some reason those details are not mentioned much in the Russian media.) On Nov. 12, NATO reported that Russian tanks had entered Ukraine. The Russian government vehemently denied it, blaming NATO for being anti-Russian.
- Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was not downed by Russia or separatists. It was shot down by an air-to-air missile fired by Ukraine or a NATO plane engaged in military exercises in Ukraine at the time. The US has the satellite imagery but is afraid of the truth and chooses not to share it with the world.
- Ukraine was destabilized by the US, which spent $5 billion on this project. As proof, TV news showed a video of Senator John McCain giving a speech to antigovernment protesters in Kiev's Maidan Square. It was followed by a video of Vice President Joe Biden visiting Ukraine during the tumult. I wasn't sure what his role was, but it was implied that he had something to do with the unrest.
- Speaking of Joe Biden, I learned that his son just joined the board of Ukraine's largest natural gas company, which will benefit significantly from a destabilized Ukraine.
- Ukraine is a zoo of a country, deeply corrupt and overrun by Russian-haters and neo-Nazis (Banderovtsi: Ukrainian nationalists who were responsible for killing Russians and Jews during World War II).
- Candidates for the recent parliamentary election in Ukraine included Darth Vader (not kidding), as well as a gay ex-prostitute who claims to be a working man's man but lives in a multimillion-dollar mansion.
I have to confess, it is hard not to develop a lot of self-doubt about your previously held views when you watch Russian TV for a week. But then you have to remind yourself that Putin's Russia doesn't have a free press. The free press that briefly existed after the Soviet Union collapsed is gone Putin killed it. The government controls most TV channels, radio, and newspapers. What Russians see on TV, read in print, and listen to on the radio is direct propaganda from the Kremlin.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: arizonapeepants; crimea; oil; opec; petroeconomy; putin; russia; ukraine; vladtheimploder
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To: nathanbedford
Regrettably, the communist legacy of Rosa Luxemburg did not drown with her in the Landwehr Canal in Berlin in 1919.I had never heard of her, so I spent the last few minutes reading up on her. What a POS elitist. She probably had no idea, that in a real communist take over, the commies would have thrown her into the canal as a traitor anyway.
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11/19/2014 4:16:27 AM PST
by
Mark17
(Uninvited he sat down and opened up his mind, about old dogs and children, and watermelon wine)
To: Gay State Conservative
Reads like Pravda from 25 years ago.
To: Admin Moderator
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posted on
11/19/2014 4:31:55 AM PST
by
Candor7
(Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
To: Berlin_Freeper
“I Just Spent 7 Days Watching Only Russian News And Reading Pravda Here's What I Learned”
Dude could “learn” the same shyt just reading some of FR posts for several hours.
To: Berlin_Freeper
PRAVDA is pretty much the Russian equivalent of America’s Main Stream Media ...... no need for truth .... just political spin to control the masses.
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posted on
11/19/2014 5:18:02 AM PST
by
R_Kangel
( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
To: Mark17
I was stationed in Germany 1981-83. The Left in FRG was Baader-Meinhof & anarchists & every town had its Karl-Marx-Strasse. Better Red than dead was their slogan.
Bridges & autobahn overpasses had built-in niche holes in which to place charges to blow them in case of invasion. Lefties started filling these in with concrete to prevent that. But after locals began watching the bridges & beating the hell out of them, that stopped.
Germany has a much bigger muzzie problem than a commie one. Putin doesn’t need the Red Army to threaten Germany, he has Gazprom.
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posted on
11/19/2014 5:42:18 AM PST
by
elcid1970
("I am a radicalized infidel.")
To: nathanbedford
"Europe is full of leftists"
That says it all.
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posted on
11/19/2014 5:46:46 AM PST
by
driftless2
(For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
To: Auntie Mame
Most welcome Auntie Mame. :)
To: Berlin_Freeper
The source is Business Insider. Can’t agree, disagree or otherwise form an opinion.
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posted on
11/19/2014 6:16:56 AM PST
by
Stentor
(Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence. /S)
To: nathanbedford
The Eurasian land route envisioned by the Russians and Chinese has a terminus in Germany. This would shorten the transportation time for goods and materials between Asia and Europe considerably while eliminating the need for Western 'security' along the way.
Its not hard to see how this type of arrangement might become attractive to Germany, or how it might negatively effect Anglo-American global influence.
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posted on
11/19/2014 6:26:23 AM PST
by
mac_truck
( Aide toi et dieu t aide)
To: elcid1970
Germany has a much bigger muzzie problem than a commie one. Putin doesnt need the Red Army to threaten Germany, he has GazpromYes, lots of Turks and Pakistanis and Iranians there.
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posted on
11/19/2014 7:25:42 AM PST
by
Mark17
(Uninvited he sat down and opened up his mind, about old dogs and children, and watermelon wine)
To: Berlin_Freeper
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posted on
11/19/2014 9:15:12 AM PST
by
Attention Surplus Disorder
(At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
To: Gay State Conservative
Today we have the Soviet Union 2.0,this time funded by arms sales *and* petroleum. It was funded the same way last time. It was Reagan's decontrol of the US oil market plus Saudi production that brought down the Soviet Union.
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posted on
11/19/2014 10:05:24 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
To: nathanbedford
Regrettably, the communist legacy of Rosa Luxemburg did not drown with her in the Landwehr Canal in Berlin in 1919. Instead, the Frankfurt School was brought to America and installed in a place of honor at our universities.
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posted on
11/19/2014 10:07:01 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
To: mac_truck
Its not hard to see how this type of arrangement might become attractive to Germany, or how it might negatively effect Anglo-American global influence. It's also not hard to see Poland as a potential problem for that plan.
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posted on
11/19/2014 10:11:08 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
To: Carry_Okie
That and the Soviet inability to do anything properly. They could barely feed themselves.
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posted on
11/19/2014 10:11:26 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: Berlin_Freeper
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posted on
11/19/2014 10:15:03 AM PST
by
dfwgator
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
I thought this was going to be more smoochin' with Pooty, and it turned out to be pretty good.
Am I better off now, with him, than I was before he came into power? For most the answer is yes. What most Russians don't see is that oil prices over the past 14 years went from $14 to more than $100 a barrel... Unless Putin was the one who jump-started China's insatiable demand for oil and other commodities that drove prices higher, he has had very little to do with Russia's recent "prosperity." ...if you take oil and gas riches away from Russia (lower prices can do that with ease), it is in a worse place today than it was 14 years ago... After the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia had a chance to broaden its economy; it had one of the most educated workforces in the world. Sadly, it squandered that opportunity. Name one non-commodity product that is exported from Russia. There aren't many; I can think only of vodka and military equipment.
Don't forget terrorism, internet trolls, ID theft, and a treasonous POTUS.
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posted on
11/19/2014 11:25:45 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
To: Carry_Okie
It's also not hard to see Poland as a potential problem for that plan. It becomes a question of whether Poland wishes to prosper along with Germany or not. I'd argue the Baltic states would benefit greatly from proximity to such an overland Eurasian link as well.
The Chinese have alternate routes on the drawing board with Russia as a full partner, so it really only hurts Europe if Poland decided not to participate.
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posted on
11/19/2014 1:04:07 PM PST
by
mac_truck
( Aide toi et dieu t aide)
To: nathanbedford
Putin already speaks German fluently. And, if I recall correctly, so do his daughters, as they all spoke it at home while he was stationed in former East Germany.
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