Posted on 11/17/2014 1:53:02 PM PST by don-o
LMAO, who wants to bet it's really more than 4 1/2 hours a day?
And when the Chevy Volts / Teslas are out delivering them to starving liberals, the car catches fire and the Bird is smoked besides!
Not there’s some fine dining. At about $400,000 a plate. EBT accepted for all deliveries.
And consider the abrasion reducing the generation efficiency. There is not one part of this idea that is viable/cost effective. I live in the Mojave. The dust is constant. there is nothing but grief down that road.
Oh really? Liberals are such idiots. Not only is solar power a piss poor choice of energy, utilities have to purchase firm service/energy to back up this interruptible energy source. IOW, not only are you "stupid" taxpayers pissing money away building solar power infrastructure, utilities are forced to purchase back up supplies just in case a cloud gets in the way and the utilities are not getting the forecasted supply requirements needed to meet the sendout.
Maybe Baraq's laid off bank tellers (due to ATMs) can get work washing solar panels...
Companies that are not sucking the government tit have to worry about things like that before they break ground on a project.
Why are they having to ‘learn to fly’ with solar plants. Similar plants have been in operation (Spain) for a long time. Efficient mirrors should have been known from the outset of the planning phase. Dust on mirrors should have been known and mitigated in the planning phase. Boiler time?
What kind of clowns are operating this place? You can just bet the kind of analysis that went into the pro formas was just top notch Look who is investing in this (Google). I’m surprised that Zuckerman was not also involved.
You know, with solar and wind being as prevalent as they are, it would seem some pretty good ideas would come forth to glean energy from them.
It sure hasn’t happened yet.
This looks like it’s well on it way to boondoggle hell.
And grinding that dirt into the shiny reflecting materials every time they do...which makes them useless very quickly. Sure they work, but at greatly reduced efficiency. And when the efficiency of a solar plant is marginal at it’s best day. cutting large swaths of generation capacity with a few washings is not the way to bliss. Bankruptcy, but not bliss.
Side note: As a young lad from the NY Adirondacks, the family did a Chevy Chase “Vacation” trip in the 70s. We watched cars coming out of a massive dust storm that had literally sandblasted paint to the metal and etched the windshields. No exaggeration.
Every year here, the monsoons whip up storms like that. But just regular car washings and the sun itself raise hell with paint, even todays formulas. And you just KNOW the china sourced materials in those panels are not quality.
I don’t remember the name of the movie, but there is a release in the past few years that uses one of these types of plants with the high central boiler and fields of mirrors as the setting for a fraudulent plant for the disposal of toxic waste. It all turned out to be a lie. How appropriate.
Since I used to be a window washer, I’m aware of how difficult it is to keep glass clean. Whenever I’d bring this up in discussions, I’d be told it made no real difference.
Well, it’s beginning to look like I was right after all.
Living in the low desert of Southern California, it seems to me the weather this year has been about normal with sunshine almost all of the time.
Interesting how the article does not mention the thousands of birds that are being killed by having their feathers burned off as they mistake the mirror reflections for water. This project is located along one of the major bird migration flyways.
Plus, we have a major drought and water shortage. This is a desert. Yet this project requires huge amounts of water for the boilers.
At lest $1.6 billion and likely a good bit more to generate electricity enough to power 140,000 homes. Just think about how many homes $1.6 billion of natural gas fired turbine generators would supply with electricity. I suspect hundreds of thousands.
I would argue that the project has succeeded wonderfully.
A mirror reflective solar facility was built
The project served well as a series of pipes to convey the money being stolen from the treasury into the foreign accounts of the apparachiks
The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise
Everything they do is to facilitate moving money from the treasury
Mojave Quick Fried Pigeon,, Yummmmy!!!
Solar plant footprint 3,200 acres. Anwr footprint 2,000 acres.
Streamers! ;)
Yep, it’s a donor reward project.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/11/the-sun-aint-gonna-shine-anymore.php
“[also] $600 Million was financed in the main through electricity futures contracts with California power companies, mandated by the State of California ... Since Ivanpah isn’t producing enough electricity to meet payments on its loan, Google and NRG quietly asked the Department of Energy for a $540 million federal grant to pay down their $1.6 Billion federal loan. Oh, and to get an extension on loan payments until the ARRA tax credits arrive.”
A donor reward project that keeps on rewarding.
Putting it on the road before they finished the engineering.
What a surprise when the bugs start popping up.
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