[SoFloFreeper]

Excuses time is here....and the sycophant AP is here to bootlick Obama.

[GeronL]

Reagan had a deal with Congress, it PASSED Congress as far as I remember. Congress just lied.

Reagan thought it was a huge mistake later

[GeronL]

Somehow the author forgets the uproar when W. tried amnesty

[EDINVA]

Amnesty wasn’t a dirty word in Reagan/GHWB’s time because they thought the issue was settled. They didn’t have the hindsight advantage Obama has of seeing how utterly that failed. Nor did they anticipate another 15-30 million (depending on who’s counting) who’ve entered illegally since Reagan/GHWB thought the issue was settled.

[LucianOfSamasota]

Let’s see...

We have all these illegal, criminal aliens...

AND Moochele tells us the country is in dire nutritional straits?

But what could be more nutritious for a human than the exact proteins and nutrients which comprise a human body?

Maybe there is a solution hidden in these random facts?

Hmmmmmmm?

[Yo-Yo]

Reagan’s amnesty program was signed into law after it was passed by both houses of congress. It was not an executive order.

[Ben Mugged]

From Fact Check.

On July 13, 1951, Harry Truman approved legislation to facilitate the employment of legal migrants to harvest U.S. crops, but also expressed a desire to reduce illegal immigration from Mexico and said additional measures were needed. "These people are coming to our country in phenomenal numbers – and at an increasing rate," Truman said. "Everyone suffers from the presence of these illegal immigrants in the community."

[fatnotlazy]

The problem of illegal immigration goes back through several presidencies, Republican and Democrat. Most administrations either ignored the problem or their efforts made it worse. However, no prior action or inaction would produce the nightmare Obama will most likely subject us to. And I suspect by and large prior executive actions did not flagrantly violate the law as Obama’s likely will.

[Lazamataz]

The AP really needs to meet their judgement.

[DoughtyOne]

No president in our history has granted amnesty by Executive Order.

Through consensus, our presidents have signed legislation that addressed the illegal immigrant problem one way or another.

President Reagan signed legislation meant to grant amnesty to roughly one million illegal immigrants that had arrived over thirty years.  I was against it, but it in no may resembled a plan like the one today, that will legalize an amount easily able to be as large as 10 to 15% of our current citizen populace.  Reagan approved of a plan to legalize roughly 0.4% of the nation's populace in his day.  Lied to about the amount of illegals in our nation at that time, the amenesty of that time amounted to 1.5% of our populace.  Also included in that bill were stiff penalities meant to crack down on businesses hiring illegals.  As soon as Reagan's term in office was up, immigration enforcement in our interior ceased.  Any foreign national that could get here, had very little to fear about being sent back home.  Reagan was betrayed, right along with the rest of the nation's citizens.

President Bush, for all his blow-hard comments during his first campaign, never passed immigration reform.  His job was done, when the mere talk of an amnesty ballooned the number of illegals in the nation by at least 100% during his terms in office.  It may have increased the number of illegals by as much as 200% (or even more).

Next we had Obama, following on the heels of the McCain/Kennedy bill.  Foreign nationals were convinced it was only a matter of time before amnesty was granted, and they flooded our nation.

The revised U. S. Census for 2010, stated there were 9 million illegals in our nation.  They had accumulated over the prior decade.  In the 14 subsequent years since then, we are told only 2 million more illegals have come over the border.  That is clearly a falsehood.

Today we have between 25 and 40 million illegals in our nation.  Obama and the rest of our government by the consent of silence, are about to make them all legal.


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[Eva]

We were never dealing with eleven million people and we were not dealing with an immigration system that has been turned upside down and backwards by a president who resents the constitution for the limitations that it puts on his power as president.

Obama is determined to legalize the Central Americans because he thinks that America is rightfully theirs to begin with. ...and because he has lost the support of most of White America. It’s Helter Skelter time.

[Vendome]

YOU LIE!!!

Reagan absolutely DID NOT ACT UNILATERRALY on immigration.

He acted on a bill which properly initiated in the House, was sent the Senate for markups, passed back to the house for reconciliation and ultimately signed by Reagan.

That is not unilateral action. It was the proper, constitutional and lawful process.

[Buffalo Head]

Shame on these youngsters. They are apparently unaware of “Operation Wetback” when a president unilaterally acted upon illegal immigration. Look it up.

[gr8eman]

Sounds like the “Lie of the Week”

[SMARTY]

Who do these idiots have such a crying need to invalidate US citizenship??

WTF?

[BilLies]

If you see AP in the heading you know it is a hagiography about the ASSo PRESIDENT Obama, or is written by the ASSo PRESSitute, but most probably both types ASSo P. apply..

[Will88]

The 1986 amnesty was sold to the public as a one-time clean up of the problem and that strict enforcement of immigration law would ensure no recurrence of the illegal alien problem.

[Iron Munro]

The ObamaMedia campaign to prep the public for the upcoming Obamanation has begun.

[publius911]

Two presidents have acted unilaterally on immigration - and both were Republican. Ronald Reagan and his successor George H.W. Bush extended amnesty to family members who were not covered by the last major overhaul of immigration law in 1986.

Neither faced the political uproar widely anticipated if and when President Barack Obama uses his executive authority to protect millions of immigrants from deportation.

REALLY?
Sounds like Andy was in short pants when all that was happening, because he wasn't listening to the entire story, or his attention span was extremely short.
There are two ways to lie. By outright misrepresenting facts; and by withholding facts altogether. Both are equally misleading, often fatally so.

First of all, this all happened in the late 80s and early 90s, immediately after the infamous "major overhaul of immigration law" in 1986.

Reagan signed that law after much debate with congress, contingent on the clear understanding that :

a)That the border WILL be sealed to physically prevent the ease and impunity of illegal alien crossings.
and...
b) This issue of illegal alien status would never need to be addressed again. . .

That occurred 28 years ago, and to this day, NEITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO ISSUES, "PROMISED AND CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD," HAS BEEN DELIVERED BY THE CRIMINAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!

So why is the country doing this all over again?
It's time for a convention of states to address the "automatic citizenship" of children of illegal aliens from any source, to amend the Constitution to erase this absurd problem once and for all.

If not now, when?

Do we need to repeat the absurdity of continuing to trust the intent or word of the progressive-democratic-communist party?

Things are not bad enough yet?
How many illegal aliens were involved in the 1986 overhaul?
How many actual and present, plus potential additional illegal aliens are involved today?

However those questions are answered, its's best not to ask the First Sociopathic Liar-in-Chief!!

[Nea Wood]

You know how when a mom catches her two children fighting and one kid points to the other and says, “He started it!” and the mom says, “I don’t care who started it; I’m ending it”? I wish we had a President who’d say, “I don’t care who started the allowing and coddling of illegal aliens, I’m ENDING it.”

[Amendment10]

”… immigration law in 1986."

With all due respect to mom & pop, as a consequence of the parents of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush not making sure that their children were taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers, these presidents probably didn’t even consider the possibility that they were wrongly usurping 10th Amendment-protected state power to regulate intrastate immigration by granting amnesty to illegal immigrants imo.

Regarding so-called federal immigration laws, please consider the following. Regardless of PC interpretations of the Constitution’s Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause, such interpretations used to foster the idea that the feds have the constitutional authority to regulate immigration, note that Thomas Jefferson had clarified the following about so-called federal government power to regulate immigration. Using language from the 10th Amendment nonetheless, Jefferson had written that the Founding States had never delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate immigration.

“4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the — day of July, 1798, intituled “An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force [emphasis added].” —Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

Regarding executive orders to pardon illegal immigrants, note that a president doesn’t have the absolute power to pardon, imo, like many people seem to think. This is because Congress uniquely has the legislative power to define what an illegal immigrant is, at least conceptually. But since the states have never delegated to Congress the power to legislatively address immigration issues, federal laws that define illegal immigrants are “void, and of no force” as Jefferson had written imo.

So the POTUS doesn’t have any broken federal immigration laws to pardon since Congress has no constitutional authority to make such laws in the first place.

H O W E V E R …

I doubt that the RINO-controlled Congress that we will have shortly is going to do anything about Obama’s constitutionally indefensible E.O.’s to pardon illegal immigrants, simply because the 10th Amendment is the best kept secret in DC.