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Spurred by Midterm Losses, Liberal and Moderate Democrats Square Off Over Strategy
New York Times ^ | November 14, 2014 | JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 11/14/2014 9:51:57 AM PST by Second Amendment First

The Democrats’ widespread losses last week have revived a debate inside the party about its fundamental identity, a long-running feud between center and left that has taken on new urgency in the aftermath of a disastrous election and in a time of deeply felt economic anxiety.

The discussion is taking place in post-election meetings, conference calls and dueling memos from liberals and moderates. But it will soon grow louder, shaping the actions of congressional Democrats in President Obama’s final two years and, more notably, defining the party’s presidential primary in 2016.

“The debate will ultimately play out in a battle for the soul of the Clinton campaign,” said Matt Bennett, a senior official at Third Way, the centrist political group.

Hillary Rodham Clinton, should she run, will face tension between the business-friendly wing of the party that was ascendant in the economic boom during her husband’s administration and the populism of Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, that has gained currency of late.

“I want her to run on a raising wages agenda and not cater to Wall Street but to everyday people,” Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, said of his expectations for Mrs. Clinton.

Straddling the two blocs could prove difficult. Progressives have been emboldened to criticize party leaders after the Republican rout, particularly given a lack of a coherent Democratic message to address the problem of stagnant wages.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/14/2014 9:51:57 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

The Bolsheviks are getting ready to purge the Mensheviks and Social Revolutionaries.


2 posted on 11/14/2014 9:54:02 AM PST by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Second Amendment First
If the Dems were smart, they would approve Keystone with enough votes to force Obama to approve it. If they did it before he could veto it, it would be a win for the Dems.

If he vetoes it and then they overcome the veto, he'll be really p*****.

3 posted on 11/14/2014 9:55:31 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Second Amendment First
All about how to spin to stay in power, nothing about what's good for the country.

4 posted on 11/14/2014 9:56:15 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: henkster

One philosophy that rules the Western Left is pragmatism. They’ll pull it together when it’s time.


5 posted on 11/14/2014 9:56:54 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Second Amendment First

My daughter just texted me that all systems are down in Clark County (Las Vegas) including police. Her husband is an IT project manager


6 posted on 11/14/2014 9:59:43 AM PST by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: Second Amendment First
The Democrats’ widespread losses last week have revived a debate inside the party about its fundamental identity, a long-running feud between center and left...

[center] == [enslave our enemies, kill those who resist]

[left] == [kill everyone on Earth except for me and my few intellectual equals]

7 posted on 11/14/2014 10:02:02 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Steely Tom

Membership in the Human Extinction Movement a must.


8 posted on 11/14/2014 10:03:55 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Second Amendment First

There’s no such thing as a “moderate” Democrat anymore. They’ve all been purged from the party or fled, just like many former Democrat voters.


9 posted on 11/14/2014 10:03:56 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
There’s no such thing as a “moderate” Democrat anymore. They’ve all been purged from the party or fled, just like many former Democrat voters.

Those lost Democrats have to be made up for by importing tens of millions of low-information illegal alien voters.

10 posted on 11/14/2014 10:06:40 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Moderate Democrat = Socialist

Liberal Democrat = Communist

Obama = Marxist


11 posted on 11/14/2014 10:08:21 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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12 posted on 11/14/2014 10:09:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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What stupid labels.

“Liberal Democrat”: Mao Tse-tung who killed over 300 million of his own citizens in China.

“Moderate Democrat”: Joseph Stalin who killed 80 million of his own citizens in the USSR.

“Conservative Democrat”: Adolph Hitler who killed a mere 6 million of his own Jewish citizens in German-held countries.


13 posted on 11/14/2014 10:10:13 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Second Amendment First

I know their strategerie..................GO MORE LEFT, MORE LIBERAL, MORE SOCIALIST...........................if that’s even possible..................


14 posted on 11/14/2014 10:16:25 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Sacajaweau

This will be resolved for the Democrats when they form up a fusion committee made up of most of the various factions the congressional party represents, march down Pennsylvania venue and demand the Current Occupant meet with them, much like Barry Goldwater headed up a similar committee and went to the White House to demand Nixon resign.

Otherwise, the Democrat party is doomed to languish for years before the stench wears off sufficiently for them to gain at least a plurality again.


15 posted on 11/14/2014 10:18:35 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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To: BitWielder1

Yes, I can see it now...1) Lie More 2) Lie better 3) Obfuscate 4) Cover up 5) Etc


16 posted on 11/14/2014 10:22:31 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Second Amendment First

Ah yes - The elusive and rarely seen ‘Moderate Democrat’.

Probably off and in hiding somewhere with the ‘Moderate Muslim’.


17 posted on 11/14/2014 10:35:38 AM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Travis McGee


18 posted on 11/14/2014 10:37:18 AM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Second Amendment First

Bla, Bla, Bla... The reality is the only difference between the two progressive sections is one is Community Organizer, Activist, Angry and bent on their way or the highways via any means and open about it... or the other side which is hide in the shadows, Lie and Deceive until total power has been accumulated... Oh and all the Wealth...

The Enemy is within and until we deal with that Enemy we will Never be able to Deal with the Enemy’s outside the Nation!

Seek the Truth for it Shall Set You FREE!


19 posted on 11/14/2014 11:07:20 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: Second Amendment First

Straddling the two blocs could prove difficult.

The image of Cancles straddling anything is not
something I want to contemplate...


20 posted on 11/14/2014 11:10:06 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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