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Pelosi on Gruber: 'I don't know who he is'
The Hill ^ | November 13, 2014 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 11/13/2014 11:18:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The ObamaCare consultant churning headlines this week for questioning voters' intelligence is a stranger to Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader from California said Thursday.

“I don't know who he is,” Pelosi said of Jonathan Gruber. “He didn't help write our bill.”

[SNIP]

Still, if Pelosi is unfamiliar with Gruber now, that wasn't the case amid the fierce debate as ObamaCare was being crafted.

As unearthed Thursday by The Washington Post, Pelosi's website contains entries from December 2009 featuring an extensive analysis of the law's impact on insurance premiums. The author? Jonathan Gruber.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aca; california; gruber; grubergate; gruberpelosi; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamcare; pelosi
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Has anyone else noticed that Nancy Pelosi is going bald?

I saw her a couple of weeks ago on cable answering questions about the election.

couldn't believe the HUGE amount of exposed scalp where she parts her thinning hair.

She needs to spray paint her scalp the same color that she's dying her hair, or wear a wig like Sen. Feinstein.

1 posted on 11/13/2014 11:18:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nancy mentioned Gruber but she probably didn;t read it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100202225120/http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/factcheck?id=0142

Health Insurance Reform Mythbuster - ‘Health Reform And Insurance Premiums’

12/01/2009

Opponents of health insurance reform continue to spread myths about the recently-passed Affordable Health Care for America Act. For example, they are claiming that health reform would increase premiums for most of America’s families. But the facts continue to knock these myths down—including a brand-new report from the independent Congressional Budget Office.

MYTH: The House health insurance reform bill would result in higher premiums.

FACT: An analysis of the House bill by noted MIT health care economist Jonathan Gruber concludes that the bill would result in lower premiums than under current law for the millions of Americans using the newly-established Health Insurance Exchange – including those who are not receiving affordability credits to help them purchase coverage. (The Health Insurance Exchange is for those without access to affordable employer-sponsored coverage.) As Gruber states: “the premiums that individuals will face in the new exchanges established by this legislation are … considerably lower than what they would face in the non-group insurance market [under current law], due to the market reforms put in place by the House plan, the mandate on individuals to participate regardless of health, and the market economies of new exchanges.”
•The Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, a family at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $93,710 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $1,260 or 12 percent compared to current law. Similarly, the Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, an individual at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $46,030 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $470 or 12 percent.
•The annual savings are much larger for lower income populations that receive affordability credits. Under the House bill, when the bill’s affordability credits are taken into account, a family at 275% of poverty (income of $60,640) would save $5,030, or 47 percent in premiums compared to current law and a family at 175 percent of poverty (income of $38,590) would save $9,050 or 84 percent in premiums compared to current law.
•Gruber also points out that, even as individuals and families on the Exchange are paying less, they will be getting more:
•The coverage those on the Exchange get under the House plan would be better than today’s typical coverage in the non-group market.
•For example, it would protect individuals and families from high out-of-pocket costs.
•That’s in addition to other consumer protections in the bill – like ending discrimination based on pre-existing conditions and guaranteeing that your coverage won’t be dropped or watered down when you get sick or need it most.

New CBO Analysis
•Furthermore, for the vast majority of Americans who get their health insurance in the employer-sponsored group market, the Congressional Budget Office has just released an estimate that, under the quite similar Senate bill, premiums would either be reduced or stay the same. Specifically, for the millions in the employer-sponsored large group market, premiums would be reduced by up to 3 percent or stay the same. And for all Americans, copays would be eliminated for preventive care and out-of-pocket expenses would be capped.
•Like Gruber, CBO found that for Americans using the non-group market, their coverage would significantly improve under the Senate bill. The CBO data indicate that the Senate bill would reduce premiums by 14 to 20 percent for people in the non-group market when comparing plans that provide equivalent coverage.

For the Gruber analysis, please click here.

For the CBO analysis, please click here.


2 posted on 11/13/2014 11:20:42 AM PST by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Do they allow wigs in prison?


3 posted on 11/13/2014 11:20:52 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both. Hat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Lying liars and the lies they tell.

Its the progressives natural state.

4 posted on 11/13/2014 11:21:23 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s a Pink Nazi!


5 posted on 11/13/2014 11:22:30 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Pelosi’s office says she meant she doesn’t know him personally. Like well, buddies, comrades. You know.


6 posted on 11/13/2014 11:22:32 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s because you never read his bill even after you passed it, you dumb ...!


7 posted on 11/13/2014 11:23:53 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Provisional ballots'. When legal votes just aren't getting the job done. - The DemocRATS.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trichotillomania.....a physical manifestation of Pelosi’s delusional state which has resulted in her pulling out large chunks of her hair. She is nuts.


8 posted on 11/13/2014 11:24:15 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (w)
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To: COUNTrecount
FACT: An analysis of the House bill by noted MIT health care economist Jonathan Gruber concludes that the bill would result in lower premiums than under current law for the millions of Americans using the newly-established Health Insurance Exchange – including those who are not receiving affordability credits to help them purchase coverage.

Reading this kind of unadulterated CRAP makes my blood boil, seeing as though I pay 10k more in policy premiums this year than last.

If everyone was affected by the ACA as badly as I was Obama, Pelosi, etc would be seeking the fastest route out of the country.

9 posted on 11/13/2014 11:24:58 AM PST by skeeter
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10 posted on 11/13/2014 11:25:47 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

11 posted on 11/13/2014 11:27:26 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

12 posted on 11/13/2014 11:28:59 AM PST by McGruff (The whole Omama Administration is a breach in protocol)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Lazamataz

Nancy Pelosi mentions Jonathan Gruber analysis and mentioned Gruber BY NAME
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4514604/nancy-pelosi-mentions-jonathan-gruber-analysis
NOVEMBER 13, 2014

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3226639/posts


13 posted on 11/13/2014 11:30:49 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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She thought they meant this guy:

At least that's what her assistant said, when he could break away from his wife, Morgan Fairchild. "Ya! That's the ticket!", he said.

14 posted on 11/13/2014 11:30:56 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian ((I once was blind but now I see...))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Video:

(VANITY) Nancy Pelosi Caught In (Yet Another) BOLD FACED LIE (about Gruber)

15 posted on 11/13/2014 11:30:59 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She is pathetically ignorant. He wrote the bill you didn’t read Bi7ch.


16 posted on 11/13/2014 11:31:22 AM PST by iowacornman (. He is the father of government health care.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Considering her massive delusions and inability to tell the truth, why Doesn’t Bonehead have her EXPELLED for being UNFIT to SERVE??


17 posted on 11/13/2014 11:31:42 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Or wear a helmet.

Lol!


18 posted on 11/13/2014 11:35:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

RE Nanacy Pelosi going bald - Perhaps SF Nan could talk to The Wookie (aka Michael/Moochelle). He’s an expert with wig-hats ever since quitting HS football, and “re-gendering” himself.


19 posted on 11/13/2014 11:36:41 AM PST by NDpapajoe ("Our Country isn't what it once was" -- --Hopey Changerton 8-2008 speaking to a 7-yr-old little girl)
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To: skeeter

Too bad this didn’t come out before the elections. It would have been the nail in the coffin for many Democrats who squeaked by with a win.

Was it a coincidence that it was delayed?


20 posted on 11/13/2014 11:37:16 AM PST by dhs12345
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