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Obamacare Is Headed For Another Supreme Court Showdown, And It Puts The Law In 'Dangerous Territory'
Business Insider ^ | November 7, 2014 | Brett LoGiurato

Posted on 11/07/2014 10:59:44 AM PST by PJ-Comix

The Supreme Court on Friday agreed to take up a new challenge to the Affordable Care Act, a move that will again thrust the law into a high-profile battle before the high court.

The Supreme Court's move is somewhat surprising, considering there is still no split in the lower, circuit courts. But the high court agreed to King v. Burwell, a case in which the Fourth Circuit court upheld an IRS rule that extends the distribution of health insurance subsidies to states served by the federal insurance marketplace.

The challenge to the law is viewed as having the potential to cripple Obamacare in the 36 states where the federal government provides subsidies for low-income people to buy health insurance.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; halbig; king; obamacare; obamacarescotus; obamacaresubsidies; scotusobamacare; supremecourt
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To: Political Junkie Too

Well I certainly don’t put the monstrosity known as the Affordable Care Act on the same hallowed ground as the US Constitution. But if the Supremes find the subsidy language ambiguous (and nothing surprises me about this Supreme Court) they can try to discern legislative intent, that is correct.


61 posted on 11/07/2014 1:21:37 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: PJ-Comix

Just wonder will the Roberts rewrite the law in order to make it somewhat constitutional again in order to declare it constitutional


62 posted on 11/07/2014 1:33:42 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: PJ-Comix

Informed commentary and all court filings and judicial opinions are available here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2014/11/07/king-halbig-et-al-head-to-the-supreme-court/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2014/08/04/the-halbig-cases-compendium-of-news-opinion-coverage/


63 posted on 11/07/2014 2:03:43 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

> It can’t be just the plain language of the law that they look at. It has to also be the debate that led to that final language.

Only if the plain language is either ambiguous or causes an absurd result, neither of which is the case here.


64 posted on 11/07/2014 2:14:47 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: etcb

while nice to contemplate legally this would drag republicans into the political blame game for the obamacare mess.


65 posted on 11/07/2014 2:25:01 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Dear SCOTUS, don’t you DARE rewrite the existing law!


66 posted on 11/07/2014 2:36:46 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: SteveH
"while nice to contemplate legally this would drag republicans into the political blame game for the obamacare mess."

America spoke on November 4th.

67 posted on 11/07/2014 2:51:07 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: SteveH
while nice to contemplate legally this would drag republicans into the political blame game for the obamacare mess.

True, but the other side of blame is credit. If it helped kill the monster, I would trade blame from those who support it for credit from those in opposition.

The old saying about "rather being hung as a lion than as a lamb" may be applicable here.

You do make a valid point however. Thanks.

68 posted on 11/07/2014 2:59:59 PM PST by etcb
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To: OneWingedShark

Common core math? ;-)


69 posted on 11/07/2014 3:16:04 PM PST by Bobalu (Hashem Yerachem (May God Have Mercy)
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To: PJ-Comix

What the congress needs to do it null the mandatory purchase of healthcare. Then it becomes useless.


70 posted on 11/07/2014 3:21:34 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: OneWingedShark

The math was off but still when you consider that they spent enough on a WEBSITE to treat every man, woman and child in America to lunch...well, it’s staggering!


71 posted on 11/07/2014 3:22:42 PM PST by Bobalu (Hashem Yerachem (May God Have Mercy)
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To: PJ-Comix

For this to work the Federal injustices would actually have to read the law. I think that is a bit beyond many if not most of them.


72 posted on 11/07/2014 3:38:37 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Bobalu
Common core math? ;-)

No, just a little "unit error" -- kept the M marker when I should have "canceled" it out.

73 posted on 11/07/2014 3:42:48 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Bobalu
The math was off but still when you consider that they spent enough on a WEBSITE to treat every man, woman and child in America to lunch...well, it’s staggering!

*nod* — and then there's all the infrastructure, logistics, and manpower needed on the government-side of things to consider.
Like I said, that figure's a lower-bound.

74 posted on 11/07/2014 3:45:27 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: PJ-Comix

I’m wondering why a court case hasn’t been filed citing the fact that it didn’t originate in the House since it was deemed a tax according to the SCOTUS?


75 posted on 11/07/2014 4:23:32 PM PST by Tailback
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To: lacrew
The ACA might be euphemistically known as "Obamacare," but it really isn't Obama's crown jewel at all.

This was crafted and passed by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and their minions in the Democratic Congress. Obama would have signed it into law even if contained a provision requiring the state exchanges to lynch black people.

76 posted on 11/07/2014 4:44:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: steve86; OneWingedShark

“My goodness; all that long-form stuff when you can do an approximation in your head in one second and get 6 or 7.”

I like his exactness myself. Engineers don’t appropriate, it just feels wrong not to have calculations out to 3 significant digits or more.


77 posted on 11/07/2014 6:11:35 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Bobalu; OneWingedShark

“Common core math? ;-)”

Ok, that was funny! very.


78 posted on 11/07/2014 6:18:22 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Bobalu

“The math was off but still when you consider that they spent enough on a WEBSITE to treat every man, woman and child in America to lunch...well, it’s staggering!”

And that’s just the cost of the federal website. Some states spent a ton on their own. Which I don’t get -why waste money recreating the wheel?


79 posted on 11/07/2014 6:20:55 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: steve86; OneWingedShark

Appropriate should’ve been approximate.

My tablet changes words on me for the express purpose of making me look stupid.

I might go over calculations ad nauseam but I don’t proof read!


80 posted on 11/07/2014 6:23:39 PM PST by yorkiemom
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