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To: redinIllinois; GeronL; Heff; TangledUpInBlue; Mr. K; LouAvul; Beagle8U; OneWingedShark; ...
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stephenjohnbanker:
The IRS has become a thug, left wing unionized bunch of criminals. Abolish the IRS!

OneWingedShark:
A flat-rate, no credit, no write-off/deduction, no exemption, no exception system would allow that.

Arthur McGowan:
As long as there’s a 16th amendment and an income tax, the next Congress can always make it more “fair.”

GeronL:
If it doesn’t CUT TAXES, make taxes less complicated, and it is “revenue neutral” and keeps taking from some taxpayers and giving it to non-tax payers… what is the point??

Arthur McGowan:
If the 16th Amendment is not repealed, the “progressive” tax rates will come back. Envy and avarice are always on the prowl. There will always be a large constituency for soaking “the rich.”

Here's how I'd do it:

Tax Reform Amendment
Section I
No tax, fee, fine, or judgement —federal, State, or subdivision of either— shall ever be withheld from any wage.

Section II
No property shall be seized for failure to pay taxes until after conviction in a jury trial; the right of the jury to nullify (and thereby forgive) this debt shall never be questioned or denied.

Section III
The second amendment is hereby recognized as restricting the power of taxation, both federal and state, therefore no tax (or fine) shall be laid upon munitions or the sale thereof.

Section IV
The seventh amendment is also hereby recognized, and nothing in this amendment shall restrict the right of a citizen to seek civil redress.

Section V
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever exceed 10%.

Section VI
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever apply varying rates to those in its jurisdiction.

Section VII
No retrospective, retroactive or ex post facto tax, fee, or fine shall ever be valid; nor shall the Congress delegate the creation of any tax, fee, or fine in any way; nor shall Congress give any credit, exemption, or deduction to any person or class of persons whatsoever.

Section VIII
No federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent shall ever be exempt from any tax, fine, or fee by virtue of their position.

Section IX
Any federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent abridging, attempting to abridge, or otherwise circumventing this amendment shall, upon conviction, be evicted from office and all retirement benefits forfeit.

I have a few more ideas for amendments here; note that the above version is the working copy of the amendment and not yet published to the PDF.

73 posted on 11/03/2014 1:37:56 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

bump


76 posted on 11/03/2014 1:42:33 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: OneWingedShark

I like this. Good job!


78 posted on 11/03/2014 1:48:19 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: OneWingedShark; All
what a fantastic document..😄 of course; the Washington Establishment Party,
shall never approve of it..their power to tax/steal is their power to enslave the
ppl.."soap-box..ballot-box..gun-box" in that order..realistically. 😟

92 posted on 11/03/2014 5:34:23 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Liberalism to Fabianism to Socialism to Marxism to Totalitarianism.. "the inertia of stupidity" d8-)
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To: OneWingedShark

What high school civics class did this come out of?


98 posted on 11/03/2014 8:32:20 PM PST by arthurus
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To: OneWingedShark

Nice work, really. It’s well done. But there will never be a flat tax in this country. It’s a pipe dream.


110 posted on 11/04/2014 5:41:22 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: OneWingedShark

dear shark,

Again, if this country is founded on judeo-christian principles, and the god of the bible says ‘give me one in ten of everything’, are we, by electing those who then demand from the electorate, MORE than what the god of the bible demands, not making THEM more worthy of ‘tribute - Roman definition’, than the one of whom desires the one in ten?

We’ve gone from those hallowed and revered principles to outright theft at the end of a gun, held by the very organization, that now, takes the money from us.


123 posted on 11/04/2014 12:15:57 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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