Posted on 10/31/2014 6:23:28 PM PDT by artichokegrower
After a video of a woman experiencing over 100 instances of street harassment during a 10 hour period walking the streets of New York City went viral, Funny Or Die News decided to conduct an experiment to see what happens to a white man walking the streets of NYC.
http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/ebf5e34fc8/10-hours-of-walking-in-nyc-as-a-man
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I wonder what “Hollaback” proposes to do about this, besides collect money and “raise awareness”, especially since any remedy would have a “disproportionate impact” on black men.
That is truly madness——I don’t blame you for leaving.
I read a book some years ago called “The Death of Common Sense” that gets into how we are being legislated to death.
I used to go to NYC in the 50s-—what a great place. I spent some happy hours in Birdland.
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Some women handle it better than others. My college freshman sweetheart was walking past the ROTC parade ground and all the cadets were standing at attention. Just for fun, she yelled out “Hey ROTC, anybody wanna f__k!?” Those poor guys couldn’t move a muscle. Thayer must have been quivering bowls of jelly inside.
Occasionally it’s a two-way street.
(I hadn’t thought of that event for years). And yes, she was a real sweet girl..Hard to believe, I know.
I doubt it. This was way before the time of the feminazis. When I was in college, I held the door for my girl, and she expected me to do so.
And yes, she was scared of the whistles and the catcalls. I will not minimize it, or make light of it. And I will never forget the look on her face when she told me that.
As I mentioned before, she was no shrinking violet. Perhaps something more was involved. I never asked any deeper questions. But one thing I know. When she walked down a sidewalk, she had every right to be left alone.
I hear you, but I must disagree. Women rarely have the opportunity to physically harass (or do violence) to women. But the opposite is not true.
So it is your opinion that a guy saying “Hi beautiful” is violating her “right to be left alone”? What if it were just “Hi”? My guess is that what you’re really after is some kind of law that prevents men from initiating romantic contact in order to prevent women from having to endure the presence of unattractive men. Let’s just criminalize male unattractiveness so that we can finally have the feminist totalitarianism that we’ve been pursuing for most of the last century.
In both cases, my answer is yes, It is violating her right to be left alone. Let me ask you this, do you think the whistles and catcalls are meant to be compliments? In most cases, they are not. They are meant purely for the amusement of the men involved. It is quite immaterial to them whether the girl enjoys it or not.
My guess is that what youre really after is some kind of law...
No, no, no. Perhaps I'm some sort of dinosaur on this issue, but I'm just really after men to act like gentlemen. No law can, or should, attempt to legislate that.
Oh my, so that's the standard we should employ for civilized behavior in public? I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Yes, we will have to disagree. A man may whistle at me any day or night and will not be considered a cad. I am not a sissy. I know how to defend myself without being offended or scared.
I think the whistles and catcalls are for fun, unless she reacts favorably, in which case it is for real. But nobody, and I mean nobody, has the right to say that others cannot speak around them. She has the right not to be touched, but people have the right to speak to her if they want, out in public. She can then choose to ignore or respond. And, in no way, is the concept of “hi” as a violation of rights old-fashioned or a remnant of some past utopia of freedom. That is a completely new, oppressive concept brought to you by the same people who invented political correctness.
Guys are going to be guys are going to, well, often be @ss holes.
Wearing a crew neck shirt or a polo-style shirt or even a sweat shirt, it doesn’t matter. I’ve had men tell me to my face that know what kind of woman I am just because I have big breasts. The clothes really don’t seem to matter as this particular comment occurred when I was wearing a wool dress suit.
The problem here is guys can’t seem to get it out of their minds that some things can be seen and left unmentioned.
Of course, you are correct. Perhaps I have been unclear (it wouldn't be the first time).
I'm not talking about legal or civil rights here. I'm talking about standards of civilized behavior. A person in public has the right (reasonable expectation) to assume that others will treat him/her in a civilized manner.
And when that doesn't happen, the offender should be criticized for it, and such behavior should be condemned.
A friend of mine once told me that I'm in the wrong century. He might be right.
Move out to the countryside. Here we don’t care what the hell you do or when you do it. It’s (gasp) none of our business.
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I think we are coming to this topic from two different, yet valid, directions: your experiences, and the experiences of an ex-girlfriend of mine. Perhaps the truth lies someone in the middle.
It was been an interesting conversation. Best wishes.
Ooh, I am so scared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRa4v8R7DD4 Best to you too. And, she was just an ex-girlfriend.
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