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Hollis v. Holder - Lawsuit over 922(o), NFA and various other items
AR15.com ^ | 10/31/2014 | Dead Corpse

Posted on 10/31/2014 10:53:04 AM PDT by Dead Corpse

Ok folks... Here's the first of the filed lawsuits coming from Stephen D. Stamboulieh (NoloContendere @ Ar15.com).

Filing: http://www.scribd.com/doc/245057730/Hollis-v-Holder-Complaint

Summons: http://www.scribd.com/doc/245098266/4-Summons-to-Holder-B-Todd

Public thread on ARFCOM: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1681489_Hollis_v__Holder___Lawsuit_over_922_o___NFA_and_various_other_items.html

Original thread I started here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3203012/posts?page=1

For the tl:dr crowd...

ATF stepped in it. These lawsuits that Stephen is filiing may blow 922 out of the water completely. This is a good thing.


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And yeah... It's "crowd funded" too.

http://www.gofundme.com/fmxlnk

1 posted on 10/31/2014 10:53:04 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: Dead Corpse

You may get better response with a bit more information.

Some of the links at the site are restricted for the Cube bound reader.


2 posted on 10/31/2014 10:59:48 AM PDT by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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To: Dead Corpse
These lawsuits that Stephen is filiing may blow 922 out of the water completely

Is this lawsuit simply trying to force the ATF to honor the actual language of 922(o) or do they think they have something that will cause 922 to be struck down in it's intirety?

3 posted on 10/31/2014 11:11:07 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Dead Corpse

Here’s hoping. 922(o) is in the dictionary next to “tyrrany”.


4 posted on 10/31/2014 11:16:10 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Dead Corpse

EAT MORE OVALTINE


5 posted on 10/31/2014 11:58:10 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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If you are eating the Ovaltine, you are doing it wrong. lol.


6 posted on 10/31/2014 12:00:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Dead Corpse

Thanks.


7 posted on 10/31/2014 12:06:32 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
This will be interesting to watch. I and many other have been hoping that someone would eventually take this step. The crowd-funding idea is a good one.

Of course, ultimately this is about the federal government following the word of its own law. With the current admin, we can see how well that's working elsewhere. But this looks like a meritable case.

Anyone who can provide any additional information on this case, background info, etc., please chime in.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

8 posted on 10/31/2014 12:29:33 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

It is a sad day when you have to sue the government for not following the law it has laid down.


9 posted on 10/31/2014 1:01:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

From a quick reading fo the complaint, it seeks to undo the 1986 ban on the manufacture of new machine guns.


10 posted on 10/31/2014 1:09:16 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

One or the other. Either allow trusts to register post-86 NFA firearms as the language allows.

Or get strict construction to shut it all down under Heller and the 2A.


11 posted on 10/31/2014 7:02:14 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Subnote under “obsolete”...


12 posted on 10/31/2014 7:02:38 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Lurker

No prob.

Apparently, this filing... And the ones that are to follow, is making a bit of a splash in the legal community.

This could literally be “one for the history books”.


13 posted on 10/31/2014 7:03:53 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It is a sad day when you have to sue the government for not following the law it has laid down.

It is a good day when you win and the government agency actually follows the law.

I have seen many, many cases where you win, and the government works the system to do absolutely as little as they possibly can, so as to avoid penalties.

Look at Chicago and McDonald, or the recent law passed in D.C., that says it follows the law by making it just barely possible to get a concealed carry permit if the chief thinks it is ok under extremely limited circumstances...


14 posted on 11/01/2014 5:25:52 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Dead Corpse
Filing

Summons

Public thread on ARFCOM

Original FR thread

15 posted on 11/01/2014 5:44:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: ctdonath2

Filing point 26 will fail under _Raich_.


16 posted on 11/01/2014 7:35:47 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I eagerly await information substantiating Filing point 49.


17 posted on 11/01/2014 7:54:04 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: ctdonath2

Thanks for the formatting... :-)


18 posted on 11/01/2014 8:13:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: ctdonath2

I’m not so certain. The tax was paid and the stamp granted. This should satisfy any Raich rebuttal.


19 posted on 11/01/2014 2:21:54 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

this case has ATF worried now. The NFA is in great jeopardy and it is likely to fall under several approaches this case will bring forward.

ATF messed up bad. Holder messed up bad. Standing has been established, the only way to save the NFA is to repeal the ban to remove standing.

Yeah, I’m giggling right now because if this case doesn’t win, the libtards are going to lose a lot of their wants as a result.


20 posted on 11/03/2014 5:51:14 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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