Posted on 10/29/2014 12:21:34 PM PDT by Mozilla
If you want to see someone on the progressive left blow a gasket, talk about voter fraud. They will all tell you that it doesnt exist or its so small its immeasurable. I say they cant see the forest for the trees!
The hard part about voter fraud is, you have to prove the person knew what they were doing was illegal. Imagine hearing this at the poll:
Poll worker: Hello, your name?
Fraudulent voter: John Smith.
Poll Worker: Sign here Mr. Smith and Ill give you your ballot.
Poll Worker: Sir, do you know if you are NOT Mr. Smith and you are voting for him its a federal offense punishable by fines and jail time?
Mr Smith: Yes, Mr. Poll Worker, and I assure you Im Mr. Smith.
Please!!!! Have you ever heard this at the polls? Never!
One state assembly person voted 19 times, and yes, she finally got caught. She tried to say that she didnt remember voting (18 extra times?)
In Florida, major cases of voter fraud go back to 1984 when it became so bad that it was hard to miss. According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, types of voter fraud included:
Someone voting on behalf of someone else. Purchasing or selling absentee ballots or someones vote. Non-city residents voting in municipal elections. Changing of ballots. Voting by absentee ballots under the name of deceased persons. Voting in the election by non-U.S. citizens. False statements or information being provided with regard to address information or changes of addresses on voter registrations. Possible use of certain addresses within the City limits as the new address for persons not residing within the City; done with the apparent sole purpose of permitting voting in the municipal election.
Andrew Ladanowski, owner of a computer software company, suspected Floridas Division of Elections wasnt really verifying any information.
There were over 700 voter ID cards in Florida that seemed to have been duplicated. He verified his suspicions by dong a quick analysis of Miami-Dades voting systems where, it turned out, there were 44 voter IDs issued to the same person. Elections officials admit 42 of those 44 were duplicates. But what I want to know is, cant the computer systems find these issues? Cant we divert some of the millions of dollars wasted on the Obamacare site (or any one of the hundreds of other government programs wasting good tax money) to cleaning up voter registrations?
When finished he found over 762 Florida voters have more than one county-issued voter ID card. Some are registered with the same address, and others are registered in different counties. And a computer cant flag this information, why?
But, hey, voter fraud doesnt really exist. If you Google voter fraud cases the first 2 pages come up with articles basically saying voter fraud doesnt exist. Knowing how Google has been accused of, and actually caught, rigging search results, I kept digging. Guess what? Further back in the search result you can find the truth. Unfortunately, most people dont dig that deep.
I found tidbits like this all over left-leaning loon sites. VOTER FRAUD FACT: Opponents of the Democratic party like Fox News and opponents of Government in general like the Koch Brothers and are just some of the powerful groups behind the Voter Fraud Controversy in the United States. They stand to lose the most money and power if Republicans lose elections. (http://voterfraudfacts.com/)
If theres really no voter fraud happening, I fail to see how expending the effort to clean up voter rolls (that supposedly dont have a problem) will change the outcome of an election. If theres no fraud, there wont be anything to fix. So whats the problem?
There are over 81,000 voter irregularities on the Los Angeles County voter rolls. That includes duplicate names at same address with one name simply missing a middle initial or potential typo of a name (such as connors vs. conors) with the same birth dates, sex, etc. Another 3100 are dead or are registered out-of-state. But liberals would have us just look the other way. Theres no fraud going on here!
North Carolina is looking into almost 800 cases of voter fraud. In 2010, out of 7500 votes cast, over 2600 were cast by people ranging in ages from 110-140! I guess if you want to live a long life, move to North Carolina! Dont worry, theres no voter fraud here!
There are about 28 states now that share voter registration information. Its not automatic. The Secretary of State has to request updates and data dumps to cross-reference voters. North Carolina is one of those states cross-checking voters. And in the first year of doing it they found over 36,000 registered voters had voted in more than one state! Yup, no voter fraud here!
Iowa recently referred over 80 cases for investigation. Texas is investigating over 311, with 51 convictions so far and they are still moving through them. Ohio has 19 documented cases with one case being an elected official who said she voted twice for Obama. Her granddaughter also voted twice (her first time voting!) Both used the absentee and poll voting methods. Georgia is investigating 301 cases. Most states report investigations of suspected voter fraud. Massachusetts, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and South Dakota dont release information as to whether or not there are investigations into alleged voter fraud or not. Hmmmm? That doesnt sound very transparent.
In Maricopa county Arizona, the Blaze reports a person wearing a Citizens for a Better Arizona t-shirt dropped a large box of hundreds of early ballots on the table and started stuffing the ballot box as a poll worker watched in amazement. When questioned by poll observer his response was none of your business. No fraud here, right?
Fraudulent voting activity is all over the place, including double voting, impersonation, vote buying or selling, ineligible voting, voter registration issues, and absentee voting issues.
So, let me see if I have this right. You guys on the far Left are good with
Same day registration and voting. No ID. No proof of residency. No proof of citizenship. And you think none of that can easily lead to voter fraud? Are you serious?
Unfortunately, voter fraud is next to impossible to prove, and it must be done on a ballot-by-ballot basis, which is costly, and is also why you dont hear much in the way of prosecution.
But if you left-leaning folks really want a victory instead of a hollow win under the suspicion of cheating, then start requiring ID to vote, stop same-day registration and voting, and institute mandatory voter registration verification between counties and states. And, poll workers need to be English-speaking, United States citizens who are trained properly on how to operate the polls.
Otherwise, the Right will eventually get their turn and lets see you try to cry foul then!
I’m pretty strict in my views on this. Voter fraud once gets you hard labor for a few months. Twice gets you a bullet.
Interesting. This is EXACTLY what a certain individual here at FR has been saying ad-nauseum in recent days and on many threads.
I wonder if he'll show up on this one...
More people are now living in empty lots in this country than are living in actual homes. Barry’s “fundamentally transformed” America.
Tell you lib friends that every fraudulent vote is VOTER SURPRESSION...
Maybe that will wake them up???
Voter fraud votes for Democrats. Why waste a good thing according to them.
The foundation of our republic is free and fair elections.
The penalty for voter fraud must be death.
This is a joke right?
I took a day off of concern-troll tracking. We should form a team. I think I will contact the crew and we can keep the pressure up nonstop.
They couldn’t actually win any other way because their record is crap and they are dead wrong on ALL the issues
The check's in the mail! I won't.......
So far he seems to be avoiding the vote fraud threads - especially the one which provide evidence that it exists.
A win's a win, in that very byword of the Left, "by any means necessary." If your most basic civil right is violated, well, too bad, your class (whatever that might be) has been violating somebody else's civil rights for a long time, so this is justified.
Clausewitz once stated that war is a continuation of politics by other means. For the Left, politics is a continuation of war by other means, and anything goes.
Rightward HO: I would like to apologize, I neglected following you around for a day. My bad. I have not given up on trying to get you, a Concern Troll, banned from the forum.
I Florida you cannot question someone who wants to vote in any way.
Interesting. This is EXACTLY what a certain individual here at FR has been saying ad-nauseum in recent days and on many threads.
Was my first thought, as well.
Vote twice in the ballot box in an election and you get a gift from the bullet box delivered to you with “express delivery”....
Wait, that “Tea Party” thing with the IRS, wasn’t that just a couple of rogue agents in Ohio? Not a smidgen of corruption.
Seems to me that one of the most abused people in that disgusting abuse of power was Catherine Engelbrecht of “True the Vote”. Maybe she had a good handle on things back in 2009 or so.
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