Posted on 10/26/2014 8:28:48 PM PDT by RightGeek
You may think you know the details of what happened in Dallas. But 60 Minutes asks you to think again.
60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley sat down with four of the nurses who treated Thomas Duncan, the initial Ebola patient.
Here’s what we learned.
1. Whether intentionally or not, Duncan misled authorities about his exposure to Ebola.
When Duncan first presented to the hospital on September 25, he didn’t specify that he’d come from Liberia or even West Africa — the center of the Ebola outbreak.
Duncan only said he’d returned from “Africa,” which could’ve meant one of dozens of nations, most of them far from the Ebola outbreak. Perhaps the nurses could’ve pressed him further. But with Duncan’s symptoms not that severe yet, and with no real reason to think he had Ebola, they sent him home.
After Duncan was re-admitted to the hospital three days later, significantly sicker, the hospital suspected Ebola might be the cause. But even then, Duncan wasn’t wholly honest. He said he hadn’t been exposed to anyone who was sick from Ebola, even though later reports revealed that Duncan had bravely helped carry an Ebola-infected woman to a local hospital in Liberia.
Duncan also told a nurse that he’d buried his daughter who died in childbirth — but he said that she hadn’t died from Ebola. Duncan later denied the story to federal officials.
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They’ve been wearing them with gaps and openings.
I read somewhere she was his fiancé. Who knows...the truth wasn’t in him.
Yes heat and humidity affect life expectancy of the virus.
However , body sweat, so highly concentrated with salt, I would not expect the virus to live , or be vibrant, under those conditions.
However , it should be noted that sweat and other bodily fluids could lead to a transfer of bodily fluids (fomites), which could lead to infections.
It should be noted that MSF only allows their doctors to remain in PPE for 45 minutes at a time, minmizing sweat build-up.
They cleared the entire 24 bed ICU and devoted it to the care of (initially) one Ebola patient! Incredibly expensive in terms of lost revenues. And what if you were a patient elsewhere in the hospital who crashed and suddenly required normal ICU service. Not to mention the many people who’ll avoid that Hospital , literally “like the plague” for some time. And the numerous false alarms are nearly as disruptive for a few days each. Financially the only thing harder than Ebola on medical institutions is Obama. The ‘patients’ may be surviving, but will the institutions?
He ripped on the CDC when he talked about the dangerous PPE the nurses were supplied per CDC protocol. He mentioned it more than once.
True. I am proud to state that the last time I watched it was in the late 60s when it came on after "Mission Impossible". And no one I know watches it. The ratings must be close to zero since SNF is on opposite that leftist propaganda from See BS.
wait. there’s a daughter?
2. The hospital was unprepared, partly because the nation wasn’t ready.
How long have TPTB know about ebola, the JV of contagions? How much money has been squandered by the CDC, NIH, Surgeon General, Ebola Czar? Witness continually changing protocols. How much does the disease of BIG GOVERNMENT SOCIALISM cost to throw hard-working healthcare nurses under the bus of career bureaucrats?
60 minutes of feel good propaganda.
This heat and humidity thing, would make you wonder if a mosquito landed on a Ebola person, then launched to you sixty feet away and landed....could he carry the virus?
His African fiancé in Africa. Then there's his African fiancé in Dallas. Then there may have been other fiancé's along the way, perhaps his African fiancé in Brussels. She's probably on her way her to claim her rights as a African-American citizen by injection.
I find it hard to believe that the “fiancée” and all her extended family, living with Duncan while he was exhibiting symptoms, haven’t contracted the disease and are supposedly all through with their quarantine in perfect health.
Unlikely from what I’ve been able to tell. If it’s at all possible I suspect it would take an infected person nearing death with the associated very high viral load.
Triage nurses simply categorize patients for immediate care by a doctor or care by a doctor that can “wait a little while longer in the ER”. They can’t “just send somebody home”! The doctor’s make that decision! I suspect this meme that “the nurses” did it is a corporate and political line being parroted to get the heat off the hospital and the politicians.
We RN’s get blamed for a lot but we can’t make up doctor’s orders and send patients home with scripts for antibiotics. The docs sent that patient home!
If there are openings, as there were when they didn’t cover their necks, absolutely, yes. The heat and humidity alone shouldn’t ge an issue *if* they were properly suited.
But we know for a fact that they were not properly suited because their necks were exposed.
Their sweat would carry his bodily fluids off their necks and down into the suit where they would contact it when the suit came off.
That is almost certainly why two of his nurses have had Ebola. The CDC didn’t give them the information they needed to not get sick. This is well known information, by the way. Nothing new. Nothing they shouldn’t have had in place.
I’d think that exposed skin at the neck alone would suffice, no need to be transported anywhere via sweat. Seems the salt in sweat would kill it or weaken it, but maybe it multiplies.
The pregnant woman that Duncan helped carry to the hospital in Liberia was the 19 yr old daughter of the family that he lived with.
The family apparently thought that she had malaria which may explain why none of them were real worried about contact with her.
Malaria is common in Liberia and it shares a lot of symptoms with Ebola- high fever, headache, fatigue, nausea and vomiting.
They took her to a hospital for Ebola patients and were told that she was already too sick to help and there were no beds available for her.
Only one of the family actually took care of him (and had contact with his waste). She was a nurses aide who used the procedures used in Liberia (gloves, washing thoroughly with bleach after every contact, etc.). Those procedures don’t always work, but they appear to have worked in her case. However, if he had stayed there till his death, they might have been ineffective, because the patient’s fluids become much more toxic around the time of death.
That could be. There are so many versions of what happened it’s difficult to sort them out.
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