No, you are upset. Just accept that I stand by my "poor choice of words."
Properly used PPE works. Hundreds (thousands) of people have managed to treat Ebola and Marburg patients without infecting themselves over the last few decades. Therefore, if an infection of a health care worker occurred, it was due to improper use of PPE. There is no other explanation. It does not require any leaps to conclusions: the nurses did not use the proper PPE, or did not use the proper PPE correctly. Either way, their actions resulted in their infections.
It seems, from the few reports on the issue, that the nurses were using improper PPE during the two days after Mr. Duncan was admitted and before he was definitively diagnosed.
Well, I saw people from the CDC and NIH state out right that the protocol they had was not sufficient for the hospitals, and that they were changing them.
The CDC's mistake was assuming that they could provide the PPE guidelines, and everyone would be experienced enough to use them. They have not significantly changed the guidelines, but they rewrote them to try to make them idiot-proof. It's the same principle that causes product warnings such as "Do not iron clothes while wearing them."
There you go again. Now you are telling me that you know better than me whether I am upset or not. Well you don’t.LOL
In fact I have found your responses on this to be hysterically funny, non accurate, full of assumptions and non-scientific.
You used a poor choice of words, and rather than admit it you continually post paragraphs trying to justify it. In one of your posts you even stated that you didn’t mean to make moral judgements on the nurses and pointed out how it wasn’t all their fault.
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Here’s another one of your posts:
It is obvious that they were not adequately trained—someone posted that they “had read the CDC recommendations”, as if that constitutes proper training (it does not). I don’t know about the hospital environment, but I can guarantee that in the lab, no one touches a single piece of equipment until they have trained and demonstrated adequate mastery.
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You state as fact that they were not adequately trained based on “some one posted that they had read the CDC recommendations” - Then you admit that you don’t know about the hospital’s environment-Scientific???? Not even close.LOL
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Then you continued your accusations against the hospital:
I’ll bet just about anything that when those nurses sue that hospital, first and foremost in their claim will be the lack of proper training. It is inexcusable how that hospital messed things up—first, by sending an extremely ill man home, which possibly led to his death—second, by not making sure that proper infection control measures were implemented until after a definitive diagnosis and the CDC showed up, leading to the secondary infections of two nurses. That hospital is going to be hammered in the courts, when the lawsuits come pouring in.
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So you are now stating that there is other contributing factors- not just 2 nurses infecting themselves. And you are stating that the hospital failed to have adequate training, failed to ensure proper infection control measures were implemented, even though you admit you don’t know about the hospital’s environment. Tsk, Tsk, Contradictory statements based upon assumptions and lack of knowledge. LOL
It was a poor choice of words, and it’s very entertaining to see all the additional and contradictory stuff you write to avoid admitting it.LOL
The more you write about this the more your credibility goes down and the less scientific you appear to be. By all means, continue on. It’s better than any comedy on TV.