What I said was that your choice of words(two nurses infected themselves)was poor.
Your first response tried to justify this and indicated assumptions made by you-not facts. The facts have yet to be established, so you made assumptions-not very scientific, and you also used a poor choice of words.
Nor is it very scientific to exaggerate and mischaracterize statements of others. I never said that these nurses did everything right, and I sure as H#ll didn't say anything about Ebola being some supernatural entity.
All I said was that your choice of words was poor. To that you have now replied with several assumptions and incorrect statements, but have at least acknowledged now, that the hospital and PPE provided by the hospital might have played a part.
The nurses were infected-not doubt of that. All the details of exactly how and why is not yet proved, but your post was that “two nurses infect themselves
That was a poor choice of words and not a proved fact at all.
Your last two paragraphs are full of assumptions, and some may eventually be established as true(perhaps in court as you said), but they are still assumptions at this point. You even used the phrase, "I'll bet just about anything..."
I would expect better of someone who claims to post only things that have been proved by scientific and learned studies. It erodes your credibility.
I think you are upset because you assume that I am placing a moral judgment on the nurses by pointing out that they infected themselves by improperly using PPE.
It’s nothing of the sort.
In the safety business, you can’t afford to be paralyzed by the fear that pointing out the victim’s mistakes that led to the accident is going to be perceived as some sort of moral judgment.
In the handful of safety incidents I have personally witnessed, and the hundreds I have studied over the years, I’ve only seen a handful where the victim of the accident really did nothing to cause the accident. The reality is that most people who end up hurt or killed caused it themselves, whether they meant to or not. In the case of those nurses, it has been documented that two full days passed while they were taking care of the patient before the positive Ebola result came in, during which the staff were using improper PPE.
Would you rather see nurses die because everyone is so afraid of hurting their feelings that they won’t tell them what they did wrong, or would you rather the safety personnel disregard their feelings and tell them exactly what they did wrong, so that they learn to be more careful and continue to live?