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1 posted on 10/25/2014 5:12:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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We are being governed by the truly, bat guano insane.


2 posted on 10/25/2014 5:15:08 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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So the whole concept of “quarantine” is what... obsolete?


3 posted on 10/25/2014 5:15:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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It’s worked from the beginning of time, just not now. Right....


4 posted on 10/25/2014 5:15:53 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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I guess they never heard of the concept of “checking passports.”


6 posted on 10/25/2014 5:19:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Why the **** can’t we do both: handle it there AND block travel from there? Why can’t we do five, ten, fifteen, a hundred things that don’t contradict each other? That’s how a free society gets things done: not with the Tsar trying to run everything, but with a multitude of counselors, where there is wisdom.


7 posted on 10/25/2014 5:28:22 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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The author seems to be pretending alternative responses are somehow mutually exclusive. Why? Common sense says to implement every option simultaneously: visa ban; ban on all travelers originating in West Africa and/or on passports from Ebola countries; 3 week quarantine at their expense for anyone who slips past these measures; lean on all airlines that have flights to the Ebola countries to stop them immediately; assist Ebola countries to control the virus at the source. Less trouble and less deadly than playing whack-a-mole with the thousands each idiot potentially infects when they travel.


8 posted on 10/25/2014 5:31:49 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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“...........The only way to stop Ebola is at the source.”

Right, and confine it to the source with a travel ban.


9 posted on 10/25/2014 5:36:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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The American goal is not stopping Ebola. The American goal is to exclude Ebola. Profiles are written to discriminate against people coming from Africa

The few that slip through can die and remove the threat


10 posted on 10/25/2014 5:37:25 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Too late, the cat is already out of the bag.


12 posted on 10/25/2014 5:38:09 PM PDT by sr4402
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Outrageous! Ban flights now!


14 posted on 10/25/2014 5:40:08 PM PDT by Reagan0704
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Horsehockey


15 posted on 10/25/2014 5:44:02 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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Among many poor arguments made by pro-Ebola activists, the "best" one they seem to have is that we cannot create a perfect quarantine of West Africa, so we should not bother to create a good one.

The author is an epidemiologist, so she knows better. She writes that an 80% ban will not stop all cases -- but doesn't say how many American lives might be saved. Just one is a lot, especially when it's your's, or your wife's, or one of your kids'.

19 posted on 10/25/2014 5:49:10 PM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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I will play. They want to play the perfection game ... in other words since there is no way to perfectly keep ebola victims from coming here we should not even stop most of them from coming here.

Back at them. Stop it at the source? It won’t work. There is no way for the US to stop all ebola at the source even if we invaded the countries and controlled the population. Thus since we cant guarantee we can stop it at the source we should not try at all. That is their absurd logic.

Not to mention that we can try to do BOTH. Not with the military. But we can provide assistance to help those countries deal with ebola AND we can restrict travel from those countries. These two strategies are completely orthogonal. However the travel restriction is really the only one we can really impact much


20 posted on 10/25/2014 5:52:20 PM PDT by plain talk
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Tara Smith has stopped ebola before. She knows.


24 posted on 10/25/2014 6:05:14 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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But despite many politicians framing such a ban as a “common sense measure” to protect us from Ebola, a closer look at both the logistics and the history of such bans show that they are anything but.

Despite her impressive credentials, Dr. Smith is wrong. Banning travel is an effective common sense measure when part of an array of measures. Those measures have been known and refined for centuries.

So how is it that Dr. Smith, a respected epidemiologist, repudiates a valid public health tool? From her article a telling word emerges in this phrase; "...and unfairly ensnare anyone from the affected countries..."

The concept of "fair" has no place in public health. It is only legitimate in organized sporting events. Outside of that the concept of fairness is abused by children and liberals.

Adults deal with right and wrong. And it is right for a country to protect its public health. It is right to do so with travel bans.

Time for Dr. Smith to look outside of her ivory tower into the real world.

26 posted on 10/25/2014 6:09:46 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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I’m not a physician, but it strikes me that it’s a lot easier to stop a disease at the source if you confine it to the source. No?
29 posted on 10/25/2014 6:12:00 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Remain calm! All is well!...ALL IS WELL!!!")
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It doesn't have to be 100% successful. It doesn't even have to be 50% successful. If it's 25% successful that's 25% of the cases that will not leave the area.

You don't fight this thing with one tool. You use them all.

31 posted on 10/25/2014 6:15:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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You fight an epidemic by ISOLATING IT to the best of your ability AND fighting it where it IS.

ANYTHING LESS is INSANITY.


34 posted on 10/25/2014 6:24:38 PM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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The purpose of a travel ban is not absolute security, but to significantly reduce the threat. If people from these nations have a profound need to come to the US, as a minimum they must be willing to stay in a quarantine area for an entire month.

This is similar to the way things have been done for hundreds of years now. We regularly do it for animals, and while it is a hassle, it is far better than epidemic.


38 posted on 10/25/2014 6:29:01 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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“Travel Ban, Visa Ban—Either Way, It Won’t Work. The only way to stop Ebola is at the source.”

Why the OR??? Why ALWAYS the or???
What stops us from doing both (stopping tourist visas and helping West Africans at the same time)???

Perhaps some federal law, maybe???


41 posted on 10/25/2014 6:34:18 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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