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Govt tells Christian ministers: Perform same-sex weddings or face jail, fines
Alliance Defending Freedom ^ | Saturday, October 18, 2014 | Attorney sound bites: Jeremy Tedesco | Jonathan Scruggs

Posted on 10/20/2014 6:26:25 AM PDT by thirst4truth

COEUR D’ALENE, Idaho – Alliance Defending Freedom attorneys filed a federal lawsuit and a motion for a temporary restraining order Friday to stop officials in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, from forcing two ordained Christian ministers to perform wedding ceremonies for same-sex couples.

City officials told Donald Knapp that he and his wife Evelyn, both ordained ministers who run Hitching Post Wedding Chapel, are required to perform such ceremonies or face months in jail and/or thousands of dollars in fines. The city claims its “non-discrimination” ordinance requires the Knapps to perform same-sex wedding ceremonies now that the courts have overridden Idaho’s voter-approved constitutional amendment that affirmed marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

“The government should not force ordained ministers to act contrary to their faith under threat of jail time and criminal fines,” said ADF Senior Legal Counsel Jeremy Tedesco. “Many have denied that pastors would ever be forced to perform ceremonies that are completely at odds with their faith, but that’s what is happening here – and it’s happened this quickly. The city is on seriously flawed legal ground, and our lawsuit intends to ensure that this couple’s freedom to adhere to their own faith as pastors is protected just as the First Amendment intended.”

“The government exists to protect and respect our freedoms, not attack them,” Tedesco added. “The city cannot erase these fundamental freedoms and replace them with government coercion and intolerance.”

The Hitching Post Wedding Chapel is across the street from the Kootenai County Clerk’s office, which issues marriage licenses. The Knapps, both in their 60s and who themselves have been married for 47 years, began operating the wedding chapel in 1989 as a ministry. They perform religious wedding ceremonies, which include references to God, the invocation of God’s blessing on the union, brief remarks drawn from the Bible designed to encourage the couple and help them to have a successful marriage, and more. They also provide each couple they marry with a CD that includes two sermons about marriage, and they recommend numerous Christian books on the subject. The Knapps charge a small fee for their services.

Coeur d’Alene officials told the Knapps privately and also publicly stated that the couple would violate the city’s public accommodations statute once same-sex marriage became legal in Idaho if they declined to perform a same-sex ceremony at their chapel. On Friday, the Knapps respectfully declined such a ceremony and now face up to 180 days in jail and up to $1,000 in fines for each day they decline to perform that ceremony.

“The city somehow expects ordained pastors to flip a switch and turn off all faithfulness to their God and their vows,” explained ADF Legal Counsel Jonathan Scruggs. “The U.S. Constitution as well as federal and state law clearly stand against that. The city cannot mandate across-the-board conformity to its interpretation of a city ordinance in utter disregard for the guaranteed freedoms Americans treasure in our society.”

Virginia McNulty Robinson, one of nearly 2,500 private attorneys allied with ADF, is serving as local counsel on behalf of the Knapps in Knapp v. City of Coeur d’Alene, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Idaho.

Pronunciation guide: Tedesco (Tuh-DESS’-koh)

Alliance Defending Freedom is an alliance-building, non-profit legal organization that advocates for the right of people to freely live out their faith.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: adf; celebratesin; christianpersecution; church; downisup; gaystapo; gaystapotactics; homofascism; homosexualagenda; jail; libeeralfascism; nuclearfamily; samesexmarriage; waronchristianity; waronmarriage; wrongisright
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1 posted on 10/20/2014 6:26:25 AM PDT by thirst4truth
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To: thirst4truth

Impeach the judges.

It’s the only solution.


2 posted on 10/20/2014 6:29:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Impeach the judges.

Show them the back door.

3 posted on 10/20/2014 6:31:08 AM PDT by YourAdHere (I just took a big Obama.)
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To: thirst4truth

TYRANNY!


4 posted on 10/20/2014 6:31:32 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: thirst4truth

It begins.


5 posted on 10/20/2014 6:31:39 AM PDT by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: thirst4truth

Sounds like a job for the militia.


6 posted on 10/20/2014 6:32:16 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: thirst4truth

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217330/posts

Ongoing discussion here.


7 posted on 10/20/2014 6:32:43 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: thirst4truth

Why didn’t the “couple” just go to a mosque? That woulda learned those capitalist Christian pigs a lesson.


9 posted on 10/20/2014 6:34:02 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: thirst4truth

the Knapps could always become muslim, and then countersue for having their beliefs “disrespected”. It only takes a phrase.

checkmate


10 posted on 10/20/2014 6:34:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: thirst4truth

“The city cannot erase these fundamental freedoms and replace them with government coercion and intolerance.”

Sure, it can. Just watch the “tolerant” liberals do it.


11 posted on 10/20/2014 6:36:20 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: thirst4truth

We will be sending money to ADF. The ADF cases defending college student’s freedom formed the basis for the film “God’s Not Dead”.

ADF has been remarkably successful so far in defending religious freedom.


12 posted on 10/20/2014 6:36:44 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: thirst4truth
So the government is going to dictate religious beliefs now?

Guess they're throwing out the 1st Amendment now too?,

They've been chipping away at the 2nd Amendment.

The 4th Amendment gets pushed to the limit at checkpoints.

The 6th Amendment doesn't apply if you happen to be a white person defending your life and end up killing the black person assaulting you.

The 9th Amendment seems to be forgotten.

The federal government sure seems to ignore the 10th Amendment.





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13 posted on 10/20/2014 6:37:22 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: thirst4truth

Do muslims perform weddings? Just curious....


14 posted on 10/20/2014 6:38:43 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: my small voice

yes, especially temporary ones, preferably where the bride is underage and unwilling. That is there favorite kind.


15 posted on 10/20/2014 6:41:45 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: my small voice

If there are goats present, then yes.


16 posted on 10/20/2014 6:41:50 AM PDT by red-dawg (<<< click for info on my book.)
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To: thirst4truth

Do civil disobedence!


17 posted on 10/20/2014 6:42:28 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: thirst4truth

Isn’t a liberal government in Coeur d’Alene one of the signs of the End Times?


18 posted on 10/20/2014 6:46:43 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: thirst4truth

I’m not sure how this one will play out. Although forcing businesses to provide gays wedding services is definitely unconstitutional, it has been established for the time being.

This wedding chapel is being run as a business, not as a church with a congregation so they may be screwed with the precedent regarding other businesses who have been “forced” to comply.


19 posted on 10/20/2014 7:01:53 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: thirst4truth; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AFA-Michigan; AKA Elena; APatientMan; Abathar; Absolutely Nobama; ...
No surprise. Just a matter of time before this takes place all over the US.

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20 posted on 10/20/2014 7:10:37 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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