Spreading through sneezing or coughing (droplet transmission) is not airborne transmission according to standard epidemiological definitions. It may be “airborne transmission” according to Shep Smith definitions or Joe on the Street definitions.
The proof of how hard it is to spread is: Duncan's family is fine...
One conclusion is that, intentionally or not, “most Americans” are erring on the side of caution.
That said, they (we) might be proven correct within a year, simply because these things mutate from time to time.
Unlikely? I thought it was not possible!
And the WHO has never been wrong.
I wish our betters would admit that the only thing they know about Ebola is that they don’t know everything there is to know about Ebola. But then again, they wouldn’t be our betters then would they?
Please call congress and tell them that we must be deadly serious about containing Ebola by strict quarantine within the United States and from infected nations. This is our right and our duty and it is THEIR duty to protect US.
Capitol switchboard is 202-224-3121 or Google your congressman or senator and get his contact information and call him / her office directly. You can also call or go to their local offices.
I believe decisive response is urgent because you can’t put this Ebola genie back in the bottle once it gets out. It is a fire, it consumes all the fuel it can get and the fuel is people. The only way to stop a fire is to block it from the fuel or cool it with water. A vaccine or medicine to treat Ebola would be the water and we don’t have reliable, enough or any.
Every possible measure must be taken to stop the spread before draconian measures are imposed. What is being done now is sloppy. We are walking a dangerous road. The threat is blossoming by the day if not hour. Almost every hour there is some new Ebola development and none of them are good. This is a serious and potentially deadly event. Unchecked it could destroy or weaken the United States and facilitate our destruction by others. It has that potential for every country and that is why so many are responding with such strict quarantines. These consequences, no matter how small the probabilities, demand a full effort and significant response.
Ebola is being spread here in the United States right now. First Texas, then Ohio then? Terror is an excellent weapon. It disrupts, confuses, paralyzes and destroys a society. Many others and we on FR have speculated that terrorists may spread Ebola. How do you that remember 9/11 feel right now compared to what you felt then? Do you want to gather your loved ones near you to protect them? I do. Even more than I did on September 11, 2001! Isn’t this passive response by this administration accomplishing the very same things a terrorist would want?
When something is being done that makes as little sense as what Obama is doing there has to be some other reason. I leave it to you dear reader to draw your own conclusions as to the reasons.
What is happening now is insane. It makes no sense at all. For example the head of CDC says: “Stopping travel from Africa won’t do any good because you have to get people into Africa to fight Ebola.” “You can’t get Ebola from an infected person on a bus but an infected person should never be on a bus because he can infect others.” “Blocking travel from infected countries would damage their fragile economies.” What about ours? What about our safety? What about resources we have paid for that should be protecting us?
Even the most despotic dictatorship in Africa has acted to protect his nation by strict quarantine and stopping travel from infected countries. Even CDC, the UN and WHO advocate and credit strict quarantine for nipping the spread of Ebola in the bud at the source in places like Senegal and Nigeria where both have had faster and more successful outbreak controls than we have had here. 35 countries have stopped travel of people from infected West African countries. It is so obvious even a child could understand it so why is it OK for people from infected countries to travel here?
I will post this message and keep posting it until someone stops me.
For further reference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216461/posts
This reminds me of the poll asking if someone was of the opinion that Obama was muslim. It was reported that those who thought he was “answered incorrectly”. You’re not allowed to have an opinion unless it coincides with their agenda.
Thank God we have an Ebola Czar with years of medical training to provide the truth. Phew!
And kissing causes babies...
Oh, it flies through the air with the greatest of ease,
The Ebola virus spreads around when you sneeze.
The evening news said to stay 15 feet away from someone with the flu. One would assume a cough or sneeze from an Ebola victim would travel the same distance. Of course, ebola coughs are magical and don’t travel any distance whatsoever.
A virus that is not excreted that way, but is present in saliva or blood, as Ebola is supposed to be, may still be transmitted by spitting, coughing, sneezing, vomiting, etc. It's simply not as contagious because the load of infective material is less that way. It's still dangerous, and that route may explain why supposedly protected medical personnel actually aren't.
There is, as well, the possibility that with a mutation the Ebola virus could be excreted through the lung mucosa. It doesn't appear that it has yet but it could. That would be a whole new ballgame.
That's what my highly dated education in the topic tells me. I'll happily be corrected by anyone with better information and training, in fact, I'd appreciate it.
That’s because Ebola CAN spread through the air, at least as far as the distance an Ebola-infected person can sneeze or cough. Even the CDC admits that:
“Can Ebola spread by coughing? By sneezing?
Unlike respiratory illnesses like measles or chickenpox, which can be transmitted by virus particles that remain suspended in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is transmitted by direct contact with body fluids of a person who has symptoms of Ebola disease. Although coughing and sneezing are not common symptoms of Ebola, if a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person’s eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease.”
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html
There is no evidence that it is airborne, and in fact, all of Africa would now be dead if it were. It’s not even clear that it’s droplet borne (although the latter is possible, at least in theory).
People who have gotten it have been in direct or second-person contact with the stomach or bowel fluids of an infected person. Keep those infected persons out of our country, and make sure that anyone who does have to handle them is heavily, heavily protected.
And drop all the stupid FDA regulations that prevent us from developing either a vaccine or a treatment. The only drug that has worked, ZMapp, is actually from a foreign company (Canadian, I believe) and the hospital had to get a special waiver from the FDA to import a few doses of it to the US because it hadn’t been tested for eight years.
If there is anything positive going on here is that more people are learning
to not trust government and the fact that our borders are wide open and its implication may be sinking in a bit into the mush brained LIV.
The bad is.....
All this is destracting from the other plague that has killed many more children than Ebola in this country.
Seems almost on purpose.
I am in the minority.
I think it is vampires.
I also sell garlic.
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
