Posted on 10/07/2014 3:34:07 AM PDT by sunmars
Edited on 10/07/2014 9:52:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Breaking just now on news channels this morning. many more under qurantine but 4 more hospitalized with symptoms of Ebola in Madrid including husband.
[Story at this link]
Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
I would like to see a graph ( from CDC ) on how care is distributed. Where are the quarantined housed ( in separate quarters or in large rooms to spread the virus ), where are Ebola positive patients put and how many healthcare personal does it take to care for one, being massive fluids have to be administered. Or are the masses just put into rooms to take their chances of recovery...just like Africa. I think the later.
My question is, “how long can/does the virus survive outside of the host? Say on a surface like a doorknob or sidewalk (Vomit).
If there were other patients the health care workers would be leaking the story left and right. They do that for stories a lot less sensational than this.
I used to get at least one bronchial infection requiring a doctor visit every year.
Oh, by the way, when the nurse’s aide felt sick, she went and sat in the urgent care clinic of her local general hospital (not the bigger hospital that she worked at) for 4 hours - surrounded by other patients, having her temperature taken, etc. - until finally she mentioned to the medical staff that she had been in contact with an ebola patient.
She was immediately put in isolation and then sent back to the other hospital, but nobody understands why she didn’t go there right off, as soon as she felt even slightly sick. Instead, she went out and exposed large numbers of people and health care professionals to the disease.
I heard an interview with the nurses, and they’re pretty nervous, understandably.
Ah, human stupidity. The most effective vector...
i was reading earlier, on dried surfaces like doorknobs, ebola can survive for several hours, in drops of blood or fluid on floors, days apparently......
This strain is different than any seen before aparently.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1
Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed
Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.
Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC’s most far-reaching study of Ebola’s transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.
Too quiet is right.The guy has been on life support since Sunday.What about the EMT guys.The ones that took him in the rescue squad.
I’ve read that the bodies of very recently deceased are the most virulent, so patients nearing death and their bodies for several hours afterwards are the most problematic as far as infectiousness.
She’s been released . . . but hasn’t returned to work yet as “nursing assistant”
Good grief
or she got it on the train.
A friends mother died from taking a flu shot but I have known more people who died from having the flu and then it turns into a bacterial infection. The flu, which I have not had since I started taking the flu shot, ALWAYS ended up being a bacterial infection for me.
Have your vitamin D3 tested.
I’ve never gotten the flu, never gotten a flu shot but always had head colds (and allergies) turn into pneumonia.
But not since I started taking the d3.
I think in 1976 they still used a live virus and it did give you the flu and other things as well.
The people are obtaining too much information from the internet! Shit it down!
That’s not sarcasm. That’s what powerful people are thinking or will soon be thinking. If we didn’t have the internet, we would know none of what’s being discussed on this thread.
I have been tested, I am low normal D3.
We lived in a small Texas down in the 60’s and 70’s. They had a policy that said if a high school student had not missed a day and had at least a C average, they didn’t have to take the finals at the end of the school year.
Guess what happened? The students went to school sick and passed it to everyone in the high school who took it home to their younger siblings........
you get the picture. The entire town ended up sick with the flu.
We moved from there in 1979 and I was glad to leave.
The sickest I have ever been in my life I caught while on jury duty. Viral bronchial pneumonia, I thought I was dying.
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