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Ebola outbreak: Spread of deadly disease across Europe is 'unavoidable', warns WHO-[22 monitored]
independent.co.uk ^ | Oct 7, 2014 | James Rush

Posted on 10/07/2014 3:34:07 AM PDT by sunmars

Edited on 10/07/2014 9:52:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Breaking just now on news channels this morning. many more under qurantine but 4 more hospitalized with symptoms of Ebola in Madrid including husband.

[Story at this link]


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: ebola; ebolasuspect; ebolavictim; ebolavictimoutsidewa; madrid
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To: sunmars; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Fortunately it can't happen here, because, gosh darn it, we're Americans!

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

101 posted on 10/07/2014 7:03:02 AM PDT by null and void (If the wage gap were real, American companies would be hiring millions of women to save a buck)
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To: Ditter
My mother got Guillain-Barré Syndrome from her flu shot in 1976.
102 posted on 10/07/2014 7:03:38 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: sunmars
if this continues into flu season, well how would you know the difference until its too late,symptoms are similar initially, hospitals and doctors surgeries filled with people spluttering, sneezing, coughing vomiting, appointments filled up, can’t get to see a doctor....I’m steering clear of those places, will only take one to slip through and there will be a pretty bad outbreak.

I would like to see a graph ( from CDC ) on how care is distributed. Where are the quarantined housed ( in separate quarters or in large rooms to spread the virus ), where are Ebola positive patients put and how many healthcare personal does it take to care for one, being massive fluids have to be administered. Or are the masses just put into rooms to take their chances of recovery...just like Africa. I think the later.

103 posted on 10/07/2014 7:06:14 AM PDT by jetson
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To: sunmars

My question is, “how long can/does the virus survive outside of the host? Say on a surface like a doorknob or sidewalk (Vomit).


104 posted on 10/07/2014 7:06:57 AM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: DainBramage

If there were other patients the health care workers would be leaking the story left and right. They do that for stories a lot less sensational than this.


105 posted on 10/07/2014 7:07:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Ditter
I started taking 10,000 IU of vitamin D3 a day almost nine years ago and have been sick only once since. I got a bronchial infection from the airplane on the way back from a Xmas trip to LA last year.

I used to get at least one bronchial infection requiring a doctor visit every year.

The Antibiotic Vitamin

106 posted on 10/07/2014 7:08:57 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: sunmars

Oh, by the way, when the nurse’s aide felt sick, she went and sat in the urgent care clinic of her local general hospital (not the bigger hospital that she worked at) for 4 hours - surrounded by other patients, having her temperature taken, etc. - until finally she mentioned to the medical staff that she had been in contact with an ebola patient.

She was immediately put in isolation and then sent back to the other hospital, but nobody understands why she didn’t go there right off, as soon as she felt even slightly sick. Instead, she went out and exposed large numbers of people and health care professionals to the disease.

I heard an interview with the nurses, and they’re pretty nervous, understandably.

Ah, human stupidity. The most effective vector...


107 posted on 10/07/2014 7:09:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: Delmarksman

i was reading earlier, on dried surfaces like doorknobs, ebola can survive for several hours, in drops of blood or fluid on floors, days apparently......


108 posted on 10/07/2014 7:12:55 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: gaijin
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Dallas is indeed "ultra quiet" ...

Clearly, a Obama-MSM news blackout ... who knows what other ABC-Soup agencies are quietly acting, moving sick people around, etc.

Ebola is one-million times more important than that "farce" in Fergeson ...

Yet ... as a public citizen I know MORE about that dead Fergeson thug and NFL Commish "video tape scandal" than about Ebola on the loose in the United States.

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109 posted on 10/07/2014 7:19:45 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

This strain is different than any seen before aparently.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed

Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature — and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC’s most far-reaching study of Ebola’s transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.


110 posted on 10/07/2014 7:30:03 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Too quiet is right.The guy has been on life support since Sunday.What about the EMT guys.The ones that took him in the rescue squad.


111 posted on 10/07/2014 7:40:44 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: livius

I’ve read that the bodies of very recently deceased are the most virulent, so patients nearing death and their bodies for several hours afterwards are the most problematic as far as infectiousness.


112 posted on 10/07/2014 7:46:59 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: palmer

She’s been released . . . but hasn’t returned to work yet as “nursing assistant”

Good grief

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782694/Ebola-victim-s-stepdaughter-took-hospital-vomiting-wildly-given-clear-return-work-nursing-assitant.html


113 posted on 10/07/2014 8:55:38 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (STOP flights and immigration from HOT Zones . . .NOW)
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To: Delmarksman
My question is, “how long can/does the virus survive outside of the host? Say on a surface like a doorknob or sidewalk (Vomit).

Here is a paper on the subject.

The survival of filoviruses in liquids, on solid substrates and in a dynamic aerosol

Data on the survival of filoviruses on substrates and in liquid media presented in this study should be set within the context of the infectivity of the viruses. It has been reported that the infectious dose of filoviruses for mice and nonhuman primates is low (e.g. 400 PFU, Johnson et al. 1995; 1 PFU, Bray et al. 1999). Studies with the wild-type ZEBOV and MARV strains used in these survival studies in a susceptible mouse model demonstrated 100% mortality with <10 TCID50 of either virus by the aerosol or intraperitoneal challenge route (M.S. Lever, personal communication). These low infectious dose reports suggest that if the initial viral titre is high, infectious quantities of viable virus could be recovered from samples stored at +4°C for periods of up to 46 days in liquid media, and from samples dried onto glass at both 26 and 50 days. This demonstrates the need for good control measures when handling and disposing of clinical samples that may be contaminated with filoviruses.
114 posted on 10/07/2014 9:21:08 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Madam Theophilus

or she got it on the train.


115 posted on 10/07/2014 9:47:30 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: blam

A friends mother died from taking a flu shot but I have known more people who died from having the flu and then it turns into a bacterial infection. The flu, which I have not had since I started taking the flu shot, ALWAYS ended up being a bacterial infection for me.


116 posted on 10/07/2014 10:56:36 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Have your vitamin D3 tested.

I’ve never gotten the flu, never gotten a flu shot but always had head colds (and allergies) turn into pneumonia.

But not since I started taking the d3.


117 posted on 10/07/2014 10:57:47 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: blam

I think in 1976 they still used a live virus and it did give you the flu and other things as well.


118 posted on 10/07/2014 10:57:53 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Lazamataz

The people are obtaining too much information from the internet! Shit it down!

That’s not sarcasm. That’s what powerful people are thinking or will soon be thinking. If we didn’t have the internet, we would know none of what’s being discussed on this thread.


119 posted on 10/07/2014 11:01:01 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Black Agnes; blam

I have been tested, I am low normal D3.

We lived in a small Texas down in the 60’s and 70’s. They had a policy that said if a high school student had not missed a day and had at least a C average, they didn’t have to take the finals at the end of the school year.

Guess what happened? The students went to school sick and passed it to everyone in the high school who took it home to their younger siblings........
you get the picture. The entire town ended up sick with the flu.

We moved from there in 1979 and I was glad to leave.

The sickest I have ever been in my life I caught while on jury duty. Viral bronchial pneumonia, I thought I was dying.


120 posted on 10/07/2014 11:10:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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