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GOPe: Let's Have It Out. Will You Support Cruz?
Self | 10/02/2014 | Uncle Miltie

Posted on 10/02/2014 12:09:44 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie

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To: Windflier

If a staunch conservative were to capture the nomination, virtually 100% of registered Republicans would give them their vote.

If another RINO wins the nomination, they might draw 80% of the same vote.

Knowing that this is the undeniable, immutable truth of the eventual outcome, WHY do the GOP-e and their apologists continue to insist upon paving the way forward for another Democrat-Lite candidate?


This is perfect and if it isn’t stated by heads on Fox News, the channel should shut itself down. Nothing else needs be said by anyone right of center about elections.


101 posted on 10/02/2014 2:43:04 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Fresh Wind

Bush is good. Or Christie. Maybe, Lamar!


102 posted on 10/02/2014 2:45:27 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (When Amnesty was granted 30 years ago, they promised to close the borders and enforce the law)
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To: Yaelle

That is the strategy by which 0bama won his party and the white hut. 100% of his base showed up. Romney? 80%.


103 posted on 10/02/2014 2:48:11 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (When Amnesty was granted 30 years ago, they promised to close the borders and enforce the law)
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To: Uncle Miltie

LOL!


104 posted on 10/02/2014 2:49:55 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Paladin2

Napoleon once said that “God is on the side of the biggest battalions.” That quote perfectly explains why Mitt Romney was the candidate in 2012. No one else was nearly as organized on the ground. Nobody. He deserved to win. Was he the best candidate, or the most conservative? No, but he was the most organized.

Back in 2012, I read people posting all over FR about Newt, or Cain (who I personally supported) or any of the rest of them were robbed, and how “the GOP rigged the game” and all the rest of the silliness attributing to vast conspiracies what may be adequately explained by insufficient fundraising and/or failure to recruit large enough networks of volunteers. If a candidate is not sufficiently well organized to even get enough signatures to get on the ballot in one or more states, how do you possibly expect them to win?

So, that said, as of right now I do hope Cruz is our candidate. I will likely volunteer for his campaign. Whoever is the candidate, I can predict it will be for the reasons I cited above - and I will line up behind them - because if their opponents couldn’t win the primaries, how could you possibly expect them to win the general election?

I can also tell you what I WON’T do: I will not sit home and sulk, or support some third party candidate who will do nothing but siphon votes from the Republicans, like far too many people did in 2012.


105 posted on 10/02/2014 2:50:36 PM PDT by LouD
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To: Uncle Miltie; mcmuffin
You're out of your mind !
NO MORE RINOs !


It's time we Conservatives changed our strategy.
SO, THEY MUST BE REMOVED FIRST, or else we'll just keep getting Marxists/Fascists LIGHT.
We can start by getting more people to CLEAN OUR OWN PARTY. Throw them out!
And keep throwing them out!
And NEVER let an "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN" win.
Then, in the long run, they'll WAKE UP and ONLY run Conservatives!


The "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" will NOT get the message unless THAD COCKROACH LOSES!

It is VITAL that Thad is removed, or the RINOs will do it again, and they may do it again, anyway.

REMEMBER
MISSISSIPPI



I'll take out (vote AGAINST) an "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN" every time I get an opportunity to, and that INCLUDES the GENERAL ELECTION.

"ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS"SHALL NOT PASS !



It's SIMPLE.


106 posted on 10/02/2014 2:52:54 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: DoughtyOne
Yeah I hear you, it will be hard to do but I am going to do it.

On a different topic, where is Dog Gone? No posts since 2010. I always enjoyed your and Dog Gone posts.

107 posted on 10/02/2014 2:53:14 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

I am so bad about keeping tabs on folks.

Someone who is better at it may come along and see your question. I hope you get an answer.

I appreciate you kind comments.

All the best to you.


108 posted on 10/02/2014 2:54:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: SZonian

Utoh, we are back to the election headaches already?!

I’m going for Cruz and I can not bear another election melt down on FR. Last election broke my heart - so consistently, day in and day out, mean. Everyone gets cranky sometimes, but that was a circle shoot out. Dead bodies everywhere. : (


109 posted on 10/02/2014 2:55:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Uncle Miltie
Gobsmacked!

Do I really have to say it?


110 posted on 10/02/2014 3:04:05 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Yosemitest; Uncle Miltie

Nice rant, but Uncle Miltie was joking.


111 posted on 10/02/2014 3:05:10 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind
That the one thing that's hard to tell, unless it's followed by " < /sarc> " .
112 posted on 10/02/2014 3:07:47 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SaraJohnson

I hear you SJ...but I won’t be brow beaten into supporting someone just because they have an R behind their name...they had better stand for something other than the status quo and liberalism...the more conservative, the better.


113 posted on 10/02/2014 3:08:44 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I agree that the majority would. However look back at Reagan. The same mentality at work here promoting Rove’s guys fought tooth and nail to derail his nomination and then fought him in office.

But it has always been so. And in Reagan's day, there was no innerwebs, which is a force-multiplier of phenomenal value (if a candidate can use it).

The main hat trick here is organizational. What the GOPe has figured out is that so long as Conservatives are kept separate, there will be no Conservative Juggernaut.

What Reagan did, and left us with, is the idea that a Conservative who supports ALL factions is better for everyone than a factional conservative (no matter how good he may present to that faction he supports).

The GOPe is very good at keeping the factions separate by way of candidates presented in the primary for each faction, and supression of Reaganite Conservatives, who are the ones that could hold the reins of that Conservative Juggernaut. If they accomplish that, they win, !up! the middle, in a plurality.

More than any other thing, FR's job (and yours and mine), should be the education of our base in this singular aspect of Reagan Conservatism: If ANY faction can vote for the man, EVERY faction WILL vote for the man. Necessarily, that means that the man must intrinsically hold, and uphold, the major principles of every faction.

Other than that is not worth supporting, because the numbers will never be there. So if one conservative (not republican) faction here is legitimately upset by your candidate, no matter how good he looks to you, it is extremely important to vet that candidate through their eyes. If they cannot vote for him, he will not win.

If FR will do that one thing, it will come together. Watch and see.

114 posted on 10/02/2014 3:10:28 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

“And in Reagan’s day, there was no innerwebs, which is a force-multiplier of phenomenal value (if a candidate can use it). “

Agreed. But the thing is that our guys don’t use it and fight the very idea of using it, while the GOPe has learned to use it. See their squad here for example. They use it to tie up any coalescing and prevent it.

I often said that if our candidates followed Palin’s lead on TeHwEbZ then they could just stop doing ambush media interviews and like Reagan did (with his TV speeches in a time of no TeHwEbZ) go direct to the people. But they don’t. they just don’t.


115 posted on 10/02/2014 3:24:45 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
I often said that if our candidates followed Palin’s lead on TeHwEbZ then they could just stop doing ambush media interviews and like Reagan did (with his TV speeches in a time of no TeHwEbZ) go direct to the people. But they don’t. they just don’t.

I see that the other way around - I think Conservative Internet Media should take it upon themselves to vet the candidates with in depth interviews published to Youtube and linked every which way through forums and social media... Not softball... Pointed.

FR could do exclusive interviews - We have folks everywhere. We have folks that do the hard work of vetting (far more efficiently than news outlets, finding problems, finding the truth of an event... take it a step further and sponsor the sort of direct interface with candidates that the other media won't do, with an honest but firm and journalistic support.

Our candidates are dying from lack of airtime, exposure... That is one thing we can fix.

116 posted on 10/02/2014 3:36:13 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Look at the schedule: Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado, Minnesota, New York, Utah, Nevada.

How about if Ted doesn't have 45% at that point he drops out?

Of course the Carolinas come next, but Ted may take some time to get up to speed.

Also, what about the "natural born" crowd? How many percentage points will Ted Cruz's birthplace lose him?

117 posted on 10/02/2014 3:39:41 PM PDT by x
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To: roamer_1

Both ways works. I was just looking at the candidates getting their message out like everyother lib does. Our guys have not caught up.

Your way is good as well. But FR isn’t the venue for that until we rid ourselves of the GOPe. Conservative candidates here are just opening themselves to the same MSM snakepit.

See the PDS wing, the Anti Cain wing, and of course the pro GOPe wing for examples. There is even a small and devoted Anti Cruz wing here getting more vocal by the day that goes unchecked. Until our act is cleaned up, we would be no different from the MSM sites doing the same now.


118 posted on 10/02/2014 3:42:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
But FR isn’t the venue for that until we rid ourselves of the GOPe. Conservative candidates here are just opening themselves to the same MSM snakepit.

Oh, I disagree with you there. I am not advocating the candidate should come here (albeit that would show he had a pair), I am saying take the questions here (including the arguments) and let the proponents conduct a sit-down filmed 1/2-1 hr. interview (pre-staged, questions known), where their candidate will get to make an appeal, and answer those questions. Tough, but fair.

Of course, interviews would have to be approved by JimRob in order to be a 'FreeRepublic Interview'...

But what I am getting at, is that this is a new face of activism that WE are not exploiting.

119 posted on 10/02/2014 4:03:45 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Cleansing nuclear fire!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3210524/posts?page=1#1


120 posted on 10/02/2014 4:03:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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