God Save Us from the Loud ‘I’m Staying Home This Year’ Conservatives

National Review-Campaign Spot ^ | 9-30-2014 | Jim Geraghty

[csivils]

Your grandstanding about the importance of natural born citizenship does not address nor change:

1. The constitution does not define it
2. Senator Cruz was born as a US citizen
3. 1 & 2 are well established facts

[csivils]

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That process is accomplished via statute, the statute can cover births — as congress only has power over a uniform rule of naturalization then such people who gain their citizenship at birth are naturalized citizens, not Natural Born Citizens. “

If the constitution does not define the term, who should? The courts? Have spoken and do not agree with you. Not does the legislature nor my English teachers. This is not mideval England. Either produce the legal standing or admit you are making it up as you go.

[Elsie]

I noticed the 'blind' qualifier as I was pressing the POST button.

[1035rep]

I don’t recall asking you to put me on your ping list. I’m not interested in your posts. Take me off your list.

[itsahoot]

the NWO-types must abolish all forms of nationalism in order to institute their one-world government, as such America's NBC-requirement is a thorn in their side (so long as America is a significant power) and weakening that qualification serves their interests. — Make no mistake, the NWO-types are enemies of the US.

The Bush Family is
New World Order
personified.

[itsahoot]

‘How do you feel about Ted Cruz assembling his own coalition within the House? Do you support that?’

Ted can not appoint chairmen or even vote in the house, all he can do is what any other lobbyist does. I am all for him lobbying for support of the Constitution.

[sickoflibs]

RE:”My biggest issue with the Mittbots is that they tied up a large % of FR threads for MANY a year; posting about a man whose chosen religion was a SURE guarantee to turn off a LARGE percentage of voters”

You mean the only TRUE religion?

I saw a rerun of the South Park episode on LDS recently.

‘DUM-DUM-DUM’

I love when Stan asks ‘And you believed a story like that?’

[Elsie]

You mean the only TRUE religion?

Many Catholics and Protestants voted for Mitt.

I have heard or seen NOTHING that has rescinded ANYTHING expressed in the following quotes:

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Elsie]

Mitt got in BIG trouble over his 47% remark; yet nothing about the 98.3% remark gets any traction...

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_Americans_are_Mormon

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[Terry L Smith]

Dear shark,

I took an Oath, in July of 1970, and have never let go of it.

I have shed blood for, and in defense of this country of mine.

The (+**+) foreigners who want to see my country on it’s knees, are only a reflection of the Soviet threat that is still in the shadows.

I, unlike some of my fellow Americans, are of Native and Revolutionary lines. So, yes, I am ‘a native-born American’.

[OneWingedShark]

I took an Oath, in July of 1970, and have never let go of it.

If that's the oath of enlistment, then I too took that oath — and I take the Constitution seriously because of it.

I have shed blood for, and in defense of this country of mine.

Thank you.

The (+**+) foreigners who want to see my country on it’s knees, are only a reflection of the Soviet threat that is still in the shadows.
I, unlike some of my fellow Americans, are of Native and Revolutionary lines. So, yes, I am ‘a native-born American’.

I, too, am native born — under even the strictest Natural Born Citizen definition I have seen — but that doesn't guarantee that I would be loyal to America and her people. (IIUC, there was no problem with Bush'd qualification yet, if we are honest he did some real damage to America: the Patriot Act, the bailouts, and the continual refusal to seal the border are three big ones.)

[Terry L Smith]

dear shark,

No arguments, there, at all!

don’t forget The Military Commissions Act, too, under Bush.

[Gilbo_3]

Ever notice that God doesn’t require BLIND faith? In his personal ministry here on Earth, as Jesus, he used miracles to prove he was who he said.

(John 10:31-38) The Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus replied, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you, but for blasphemy, because you, though only a human being, are making yourself God.” Jesus answered, “Is it not written in your law ‘I said, you are gods’? If those to whom the word of God came were called ‘gods’—and the scripture cannot be annulled— can you say that the one whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world is blaspheming because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”

great post to find on a sunday afternoon Sir...TYVM...

[Gilbo_3]

dont forget the ones who call us ‘poopie-heads’ and suggest that we are ‘purists’ because we wont vote *for* [its impossible to vote ‘against’] that has vocally and legislatively represnted only 10-20% of anything that i woould agree with...

[OneWingedShark]

Thank you.

[familyop]

Many potential voters decide as to who is a natural born citizen and who is not. We decide that at the polls or by avoiding the polls without arguing the matter with others. Political and nonpolitical, we decide.

As the situation is, the few most influential constituents choose their candidates (women, natural born foreigners, all) to push for more global boss discretion over the slave majority. As it stands, we’re slaves for life with no constitutional rights, no 6-year limit, no Jubilee and an obvious attempt at genocide against many of us by the bosses of world.

Have fun. Enjoy the slide.

[TalonDJ]

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke

Let me counter with:
"The only thing necessary for good to beat evil is if good men start being more willing to embrace a little more evil.... then a little more... then some more."

[freedumb2003]

I have made my point in excruciating detail. Ignore it at your peril. As was done in 2008 and 2012.