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The Keyword That Unlocks The Secret Master Plan Of ISIS
Shoebat.com ^ | September 27, 2014 | Walid Shoebat

Posted on 09/27/2014 6:36:31 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

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I have never been a prophecy buff, but in order to understand the middle east and the actions and motivations, we have to take the actors at their word. ISIS may be a lot of evil things, but they don't seem to be liers. They will tell you why they do things very plainly, it is up to us to listen. ISIS, and many other muslims including the former president of Iran, are convinced that they are in the last days, and the islamic apcolypse is imminent. I cannot dismiss ISIS's reasons for acting just because I do not have the same motivations.

The important thing is that we do not decieve ourselves, or let ourselves be decieved. Obama and our leadership telling us that ISIS is not islamic is severe incompetance at best, willful deception at worst. It does not matter at all what Obama thinks of ISIS and their motives. It only matters what ISIS thinks of themselves.

We are in a period much like the rise of Hitler, where anyone who wanted to know the future and Hitler's intensions could just read his book and accepted what he wrote as an honest claim of his beliefs and what he would do once he got into power. Every other leader in Europe however, exhausted from WWI, preferred deliberately not seeing him for what he was. We should not make the same mistake here. Just take ISIS and their statements seriously, and we will understand them.

1 posted on 09/27/2014 6:36:31 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Very interesting. I’m not into prophecies, either, but whether I am or not, the Muslims are, and they are clearly getting and giving messages through all of this...which we are completely ignoring, either out of ignorance or out of the stupid idea that nobody could believe these things anymore.

Well, they do. And I think we are going to see more activity from Turkey, which has never given up on the Ottoman Empire. Turkey, the “Sick Man of Europe,” but maybe we didn’t realize exactly how sick.


2 posted on 09/27/2014 6:47:07 PM PDT by livius
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To: Vince Ferrer
including the former president of Iran,

The twelvers are the real threat in Iran. Without them, Iran is fundamentalist but not particularly agressive. Unfortunately Obama chose to ignore the attempt to drive them from power a few years ago.

Given a choice of a world without Shi'ites and a world without Sunnis, I'll happily take the world without Sunnis.


3 posted on 09/27/2014 6:49:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Not to worry - I’m sure john f’n kerry, susan rice, and owebama are all over this.


4 posted on 09/27/2014 6:49:34 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
They will tell you why they do things very plainly, it is up to us to listen.

I beg to disagree! It is up to us to melt the sands of northern Iraq and Syria.

5 posted on 09/27/2014 6:49:46 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Vince Ferrer
The Battle of Marj Dābiq (Arabic: مرج دابق‎) as we all learned as children was the most decisive military clash in Middle Eastern history (1516 AD) near the town of Dabiq, 44 km north of Aleppo, Syria between the Ottoman Empire and the Mamluk Sultanate.

Half-millernial anniversary in less than two years.

6 posted on 09/27/2014 6:54:48 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

It’s becoming less clear why Walid Shoebat’s screed, particularly his shoelicking tributes to Vlad Putin, continue to be posted on FR.


7 posted on 09/27/2014 6:55:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek

Civilization will be fighting to defeat Islam for the next 100 years.

If it decides to fight back — and soon.

If it doesn’t......


8 posted on 09/27/2014 6:59:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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there is no secret master plan - everyone of these Islamists are crystal clear about what they want to do. They all want to re-establish the Caliphate. That is when Arab civilization was at its height. It is their wet dream. And what we need to realize is that you can't re-establish the Caliphate without Baghdad which is why Iraq is the key to the war against Islamism.

Secondly, we need to realize that Islamism is really disguised Arab nationalism. If you want to weaken the Islamists you need to point out to Moslems who are not Arabs (e.g. the Chechens and the Somalis and the Nigerians and the Afghans and the Indonesians) that they are being used by the Arabs to re-establish an Arab Empire, not a Moslem Empire. The Caliphate as envisaged by Al Qaeda and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood will be run by Arabs for Arabs.

9 posted on 09/27/2014 7:03:02 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: lightman
Half-millernial anniversary in less than two years.

Excellent observation, since muslims are extremely anniversary aware. September 11 was not picked out of the air.

10 posted on 09/27/2014 7:03:09 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Where the Catholic was strong prior to Vatican II

11 posted on 09/27/2014 7:03:39 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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So what is Dabiq to ISIS and Turkey?

Dabiq Obama?

12 posted on 09/27/2014 7:04:08 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Now is not the time for fear. That comes later.")
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To: laplata

ping


13 posted on 09/27/2014 7:05:37 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: lightman
Half-millernial anniversary in less than two years.

And 2016 is 15 years after 9/11/2001. Hmmn. Thanks for pointing this out. Perhaps they're gearing up for something big in 2016. If so, it's going to be ugly, most likely in Europe but perhaps here as well. Whether it happens now, or in 50 years time, they are pests that don't give up. 2016 seems like a time for them to bother us big-time.

14 posted on 09/27/2014 7:06:56 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: SunkenCiv

pretty harsh,civil.


15 posted on 09/27/2014 7:10:10 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“It does not matter at all what Obama thinks of ISIS and their motives. It only matters what ISIS thinks of themselves.”

Amen!
Here in OKC, we’re hearing authorities from Moore, the suburb directly south of us, tell us that the beheading at the Vaughhn Foods site on Thursday was “workplace violence” and not associated with Islam... despite the fact that the perp was trying to convert co-workers to Islam, was fired after an argument re: stoning women according to Sharia law, and was shouting Islamic phrases as he beheaded his first victim and began stabbing his second.

It does not matter at all what Obama or Kerry or any spokesman or anyone else thinks of jihad adherents and their motives- lone wolves or not. It only matters what they think of themselves.


16 posted on 09/27/2014 7:11:42 PM PDT by Dad x 3
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To: Vince Ferrer

ISIS end of the world bookmark


17 posted on 09/27/2014 7:11:47 PM PDT by Squeako (The radicals are the wolves. The moderates are the wolves in sheep's clothing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

What’s wrong with Walid Shoebat and Vladimir Putin?


18 posted on 09/27/2014 7:11:49 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: SunkenCiv

There is no secret master plan.
However, he does touch on something our leadership fails to grasp: the Muslim mind is heavily invested in their “prophecies” and in symbolism.
So they do acts of barbarity in locations that to us make no sense, but to their mind holds vast symbolism.


19 posted on 09/27/2014 7:14:23 PM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

September 11 is also the beginning of the Ecclesiastical (Church) Year on the Coptic calendar.

http://www.missionstclare.com/english/people/sep11o.html

Just a cursory read of the Orthodox Matins for that day reveals a theme of prayers for peace and victory:

http://www.antiochianladiocese.org/files/service_texts/other_commem/indiction/Sept-01-ORTHROS.pdf

(Start reading on page 6)

September 11 was NOT random.

The jihadists were attempting to poke a finger in the eye of Almighty God!


20 posted on 09/27/2014 7:30:48 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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