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Beavercreek Walmart surveillance tape shows shooting, 9-1-1 call (video)
Cleveland.com ^ | Sep 24, 2014 | Jeremy Pelzer

Posted on 09/24/2014 8:17:16 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy

Editor's note: It is the general policy of Northeast Ohio Media Group not to show images of people being killed. We chose to publish this video because it addresses questions that have been raised about the behavior of the suspect and the police.

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine released a surveillance video Wednesday showing John Crawford III being shot to death by police last month in a Dayton-area Walmart.

DeWine's release of the video and 9-1-1 recording coincided with a Greene County grand jury finding that Beavercreek police were justified in shooting the 22-year-old man, whom they believed was armed with a rifle.

In the footage, Crawford is seen talking on a cell phone and waving what turned out to be an air rifle at the end of a store aisle. Police arrived after a 9-1-1 caller reported that a man was waving around a gun and pointing it at people.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 911; banglist; donutwatch; leo; liar
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The 911 caller lied and said that Crawford was pointing the gun at children. He also claimed that Crawford was loading the gun.

Cops shot him dead within second of showing up.

1 posted on 09/24/2014 8:17:16 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy
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To: exhaustguy; null and void

Ping


2 posted on 09/24/2014 8:18:19 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

The guy was a nutjob and got what he deserved.


3 posted on 09/24/2014 8:20:44 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Did you watch the video and listen to the 911 caller lying?


4 posted on 09/24/2014 8:23:04 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Did they even say “drop the weapon?”


5 posted on 09/24/2014 8:23:44 PM PDT by bolobaby
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If they did, I’m not sure you’d hear it on this video.

It sure wasn’t long after the cops came in that the guy was shot.


6 posted on 09/24/2014 8:26:13 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

It looks really bad to me from the video.


7 posted on 09/24/2014 8:30:33 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

After reviewing the video and listening to the 911 call, the idiot 911 caller was giving incorrect information which have made the responding cops a little too quick on the trigger.


8 posted on 09/24/2014 8:30:54 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Wow! It’s like the Walmart employee is some kind of sociopath trying to get this guy shot! The cops get equal blame here, no fact finding or verification, just go in and shoot him dead.


9 posted on 09/24/2014 8:31:37 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Yes. I have also known about this story for awhile. The Racist scum of the NAACP is trying to blow this up into another ferguson. These types need to be at the ass end of a tomahawk missile. The cop was justified in wasting the guy.


10 posted on 09/24/2014 8:31:49 PM PDT by ohioman
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Looked like to me they just shot him without warning when he was trying to run away.


11 posted on 09/24/2014 8:32:05 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Don’t care if the thug was or not doing any of that....you go in a ‘public’ area, no matter where it is, ‘swinging a gun around’ and you get exactly what he got.... End of story.


12 posted on 09/24/2014 8:38:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

...”It sure wasn’t long after the cops came in that the guy was shot”....

Of course.


13 posted on 09/24/2014 8:39:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: ohioman

Was the guy posing as a threat to anybody?

Was he mock aiming the gun at anybody?

Or is everybody who has a gun fairly deemed a threat by virtue of carrying one?


14 posted on 09/24/2014 8:39:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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There were four kids within firing range of the guy while he was there swinging that gun around......a man and his two kids were there prior to the woman and her kids....

The guy needed to go down....period.


15 posted on 09/24/2014 8:41:25 PM PDT by caww
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i have to assume you knew him personally based on that comment...if not thats a dumbass comment if i ever did see one!

Mike


16 posted on 09/24/2014 8:43:54 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
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....”is everybody who has a gun fairly deemed a threat by virtue of carrying one?”....

Most people who carry a gun wouldn’t be ‘swinging it around’ in a wal-mart, or any other place for that matter, as this guy was...he was a threat for just doing that.


17 posted on 09/24/2014 8:44:24 PM PDT by caww
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I don’t have access to the video, so I cannot confirm whether or not he was doing anything.

Was he acting in a manner that would cause anybody who did not know him to believe he was a threat?


18 posted on 09/24/2014 8:46:05 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: caww

so i should expect to get gunned down when open carry no questions asked?


19 posted on 09/24/2014 8:46:28 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Federal officials announced Wednesday that the U.S. Justice Department's civil rights division, the U.S. attorney's office, and the FBI will open an investigation into the shooting of Crawford, who was black, by white officers.

Have the Dept Of Just Us checkout the ARDs and white men. E.g.,

"In 2010, Las Vegas Metro Police officers shot and killed Erik Scott as he walked out of a suburban Costco store. . . . Erik Scott was a West Point graduate with an MBA from Duke University who enjoyed body building and was a pharmaceutical sales rep."

The FBI stats show that whites are more likely to die while being arrested and IMO there is no doubt that some of those deaths were the intention of the police. I believe that the police were cleared in this case, as IIRC Mr. Scott had a concealed carry and simply did not respond appropriately to the police orders.

It is not a racial issue except for the Obama-Holder Dept. of Just Us, the Race-Grievance Industry, and their like.

What about the larger number of whites and Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD)? Why is that okay with Obama, the race-grievance industry, and the media? We never see coverage of questionable ARDs involving whites that's anything close to Ferguson.

Arrest-Related Deaths, 2003-2009 - Statistical Tables

"From 2003 through 2009, a total of 4,813 deaths were reported to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ (BJS) Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD) program."

Of these, about 6 in 10 deaths (2,931) were classified as homicide by law enforcement personnel, and 4 in 10 (1,882) were attributed to other manners of death.

Table 1 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death, 2003-2009

Manner of death 2003-2009 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
All manners 4,813 627 673 689 721 745 629 729
Homicide —by law enforcement 2,931 376 375 377 447 455 404 497
by other persons 27 3 4 4 2 7 3 4
Suicide 541 60 84 82 67 78 76 94
Intoxication 525 83 83 90 76 89 54 50
Accidental injury 272 53 41 47 39 35 28 29
Natural causes 244 26 46 32 34 42 33 31
Unknown 273 26 40 57 56 39 31 24
Note: Due to variation in reporting, caution should be used in comparing counts from year to year. See Methodology for information on missing data by state for each year. Counts may differ from previous publication due to additional information.

Table 5 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death and demographic characteristics, 2003-2009

Demographic
characteristics
All manners Homicide Suicide Intoxication Accident Natural causes Unknown
Total 4,813 2,958 541 525 272 244 273
Sex
Male 4,594 2,851 517 490 259 218 259
Female 218 107 24 35 13 26 13
Unknown 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
Race/Hispanic origin
White, non-Hispanic 2,026 1,233 327 178 95 110 83
Black, non-Hispanic 1,529 937 80 217 111 85 99
Hispanic 949 599 110 109 55 29 47
Other* 150 107 12 17 4 4 6
Unknown 159 82 12 4 7 16 38
Age
17 or younger 127 99 6 5 13 0 4
18-24 909 685 80 53 54 10 27
25-34 1,391 893 140 177 65 41 75
35-44 1,238 658 159 190 78 66 87
45-54 752 390 105 84 45 75 53
55 or older 317 188 44 11 12 52 10
Unknown 79 45 7 5 5 0 17
*Includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons of two or more races.

To me this shows that it is not a racial thing. It happens to all races. These figures however do not show those thought "murdered" by police. I have not yet located data for recent years. Why can't I find data for recent years? I do not know.. maybe the Dept of Just Us and Race-Grievance Industry don't want it known that whites are the most likely to die being arrested.

20 posted on 09/24/2014 8:46:54 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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